Not OC: Just found this on my old hard drive while grabbing some other stuff.
The designers as seen by designers is so right.
Nothing they come up with can be wrong, it’s all innovative!!
Is “IT” a general term for tech workers in some places? I keep seeing people refer to it as such, but where I am, it is a term which primarily describes networking and infrastructure professionals.
IT stands for Information Technology. Relevant Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_technology
Yes, that is consistent with my understanding - networking and infrastructure. Engineering and management is generally not considered IT where I am unless they are directly supporting networking and infrastructure. But someone writing code for a game or app wouldn’t be IT.
The wiki link states software to be included in the definition. Management is not IT of course, but as there exists management in IT is used in the image I’d guess.
Right, there is definitely a software side of IT, but not all software is IT adjacent. IT software is really a very small field these days, compared to software in general.
Software devs and designers usually fall under IT is my understanding but I can see why many people/places would make the distinction. Especially for companies that only write software, their IT would more be the infrastructure, but if they’re only writing software for in house use that’s more on the IT side. I could be completely wrong about this too, just how I saw them grouped.
Network engineering is kind of in the middle where you take the skill set of help desk and office management. This often leads to help desk and software development both falling under the organization in information technology. Application support also often falls under this category.
Yeah, it’s a generic term here that encompasses most tech jobs
I sense a theme, when it comes to the sysadmins.
Having been a sysadmin you would be surprised at both the amount of times I had to explain why we couldn’t just put an unprotected endpoint outside the firewall and also how much alcohol I drank to cope with the former.
It is like being builder to architects that think you can have a second story just floating in midair. I am baffled by how ignorant of the basics of infrastructure many developers are.
Obviously I don’t expect a website dev to know the details of like iptables configs for load balancing with failover or whatever. Or even be terribly familiar with how to set up a production web server. I do expect people to know stuff like every computer on the internet is under constant attack from scripts. Or that taking advantage of peoples’ trust and leaking their data is bad actually.
Daniel?
What are the odds of that working?
Also all sysadmins share a hive mind.
I guess the hive Mind saves on the booze. It’s after 5 in some sysadmin’s time zone
One might note they also have the highest average income
Fuck no we don’t.
How dare you accuse salary.com of lying to me?!?!?
Averages are fun. It’s likely Opsy roles do have the highest average. But it’s also very true that devs have the highest ceilings. There’s just very few devs making 600+ and the majority at 120-150. Then there is an absolute shit load of opsys making 160-200. So in ops you hit the ceiling super fast while the occasional dev just keeps rocketing to bullshit pay but the averages are what they are
(Hiring manager for devops. I get the raw data through a corporate data broker)
The entire sys admin column is so on point!
I was a sysadmin, once…Not for long.
As a sysadmin, I concur.
A fellow sysadmin, I thought we went extinct. I had to pivot to “infrastructure engineer” but it’s basically the same thing nowadays.
Not quite extinct, but endangered.
Thankfully there’s been a recent trend of companies pulling back out of the cloud because reality set in and they’re neither saving money nor getting a better experience than they had with their on-prem solutions.
So, if that trend holds, we’ll hopefully go from endangered to merely threatened.
Keep up the good fight my friend. We shall rise again.
Rise again you shall, from the ash of the burning sky.
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
I’m an olde dog sysadmin at this point. The end is nigh!
I have two weeks left as a sysadmin and I’m transitioning to development. My experiences in sysadmin are a big reason I got in the door with little coding experience. A lot of devs don’t have an in depth knowledge about computers outside of programming, and knowing that extra stuff can certainly raise the ceiling.
Job titles in IT don’t mean anything these days.
In particular, the term “engineer” has been butchered beyond recognition.
I’m an analyst. I’ve never analyzed anything.
I’m an architect, I’ve never designed a house.
Wait so you’re telling me I’m NOT an engineer?
Agreed. I usually say developer because I view engineers as people who do actual engineering. I’m more of a plumber who fits pipes (pieces of software) together.
Iirc it’s full blown illegal to call yourself an engineer in Canada unless you’re a licensed engineer. Meaning that if you marketed yourself as a software engineer without an engineering license, you could technically get in trouble. Not that I think they really enforce that for “Software Engineer”.
Wait so you’re telling me I’m NOT an engineer?
Are you licensed by the state? There’s your answer!
Digital archaelogist here.
Warm greetings to you from the Customer Success Evangelist.
That sounds like an actual job title, that works alongside a React Ninja. What do you do, exactly?
My first job was as an “engineer”.
I spent most my time resetting passwords and setting up Outlook…
My position is still called sysadmin shrugs
Didn’t you guys morph into DevOps?
DevOps on the resume, Sysadmin in my heart forever.
the illustration of the devs with 500 years of xp was missing hahaha
Gosh the QA column is depressingly accurate for shitty game companies.
The best thing to take away from this meme isn’t “lol QA dumb” or “lol Designers eat paint” it’s “fuck, what kind of toxic asshole legitimately feels this way about their coworkers” and yea, they exist - I’ve met them. Don’t be one of those assholes.
The “qa as seen by dev” pic should be this Jessie meme.
The QA as seen by QA pic should be this Dr strange meme.
I kinda want an “End Users” one, too (already know what their “Sysadmins” would be).
I was in tier 1 support for a few years back in the day, so I’m trying to think of an appropriate image. Based on my experience… something disposable.
Helpdesk? You guys are like the people who have to go and fix a melting nuclear reactor. Necessary but only do it for like a year or two otherwise you get broken.
Moss & Roy from IT Crowd
Where’s my network admins at?
Comprehended under sysadmin because the attitude is the same just the devices are a bit different.
I feel like this is more “how we feel we get perceived by others” moreso.
I try and perceive all the members of my team as, well, my team. I heavily appreciate everyone busting their assess off and contributions.
However, there are folks on each layer that do actually treat others like this and I think we can all agree those people suuuuck.
Project Manager x QA = The TA… I thought it was astronauts floating around in space or some shit lol.
Thank you! I squinted so hard. 😖
As a developer, I see sysadmins/devops as black magic masochists
As a DevOps guy, I can tell you we’re black magic sadists. You should feel the pain. Not us.
Pls no. I can only take so much Terraform
Did you even try to validate before creating that PR???
PR?
git checkout main && git pull branch && git push --force
I refer to our sysadmin as a BOFH and he doesn’t seem to mind. The younger devs don’t know the term without googling it.
The sysadmin column feels so right.
What’s BOFH? Bitch Ole Fucking Hippie?
Edit: Ah, bastard operator from hell.
Bastard Operator From Hell
I refer to our sysadmin as a BOFH and he doesn’t seem to mind.
He’s probably secretly delighted, although of course he’d never tell you that.
I choose to take that as a compliment (if it wasn’t). lol
As a developer, the baby is how I see developers, too.
In 2024, I feel like we should have the power to create images that aren’t fuzzy, overcompressed, and hard to see messes, yet here we are.
Yep this seems even more blurry and pixelated than the last 3 times I saw it haha
I imagine people resharing memes (long before OP here) take a photo of their monitor with a potato phone and then reupload that after resizing it with some shitty Motorola app or whatever first. Do that 3-4x and soon it’s a mess.
Read the post body.
Not OC: Just found this on my old hard drive while grabbing some other stuff.
But Admiral Patrick, how dare your ancient memes from times long forgotten not meet our modern expectations? Do you at least have a proper shitposting license?
I’ll post mine as reference, may you gaze upon it and ponder the shortcomings of your horrible artifact-ridden memes!
Funny thing is, I did upscale it a little bit. The original was worse xD
Lol, it is indeed one of the cleaner versions that I remember having seen, nice work! ^, ^
As someone who has been working in IT for 20+ years this is completely inaccurate except for the sys admin column.
Found the SysAdmin
