• stoy@lemmy.zip
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    7 months ago

    Ok, I can sort of see your explanation, but I disagree with you on the fact that other people should not be expected to explain their viewpoints to a person they disagree with.

    Not explaining just leads to bickering, with no one getting any point across.

    But if you explain the other party may gain a better understanding.

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      7 months ago

      Maybe there is some hypothetical moral ideal on how people should behave in internet disagreements but I’m just trying to get you to be more realistics lmao

      • stoy@lemmy.zip
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        7 months ago

        I am a realist, which is why I am trying show that I am no troll the only way I can, by trying to have a polite conversation.

        Though I am starting to get the picture that some people who still are downvoting me would rather see me insulting and crapping sll over the thread, which just reenforce the importance of not doing that.

        • Adkml [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          7 months ago

          You are in no way a realist you are actually being a pedantic pain in the ass doing an extreme amount of work to not understand really obviously apparent realities, starting with why you got offended somebody would call out old white assholes and then with the following 20 questions where you’re being intentionally obtuse while acting like you have the moral high ground.

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          7 months ago

          Honestly you aren’t even the worst in this thread but you did kinda open the door to some shit

          Not that I don’t think you’re dumb as bricks for your “what does skin color have to do with this” comment. You should know damn well what skin color has to do with this

          • stoy@lemmy.zip
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            7 months ago

            That’s fair, like I said, I got mildy annoyed, and never expected this entire conversation

            • AOCapitulator [they/them]@hexbear.net
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              7 months ago

              I’m pretty sure you’re genuine, and if that is the case, I hope you will be able to figure out why you were lumped in with the rest, and hope it doesn’t happen again

              • stoy@lemmy.zip
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                7 months ago

                After reading about why .zip can be seen as bad, I do understand it better, I genuinely didn’t know about the reputation of the instance.

                Learned my lesson?

                I have gained more understanding, but there was no lesson to be learned here.

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                    7 months ago

                    I can see that, to be honest I am also having quite a lot of trouble keeping the story straight myself.

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      7 months ago

      I know what you mean, but also this type of logic is used to fuck with marginalized people, putting the onus on them to stop and explain to their aggressors why what is being done to them is wrong, why they are valid people, to stop and justify your own existence for one who would doubt it

      I know that’s not what you were doing, but that’s what we deal with constantly, and because others in the thread had already gone into detail about why it matters this guy was white and male, I did not need to explain again

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        7 months ago

        I get that, but I hoped that my way of posting gave me some benefit of the doubt. (:

        • AOCapitulator [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          7 months ago

          From my perspective, it actually served to do the opposite. I understand that you’re posting in good faith, but it is, especially at first, indistinguishable from the kinds I was describing

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            7 months ago

            With hindsight, I can see that, though I fisagree with the response.

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              7 months ago

              I actually just posted what amounts to a short essay about this, if you’re interested in more of my reasoning you can check it out. Cheers though, wish you well