Would like to hear your perspective on this
So I originally bought one due do family circumstances. A family member was in a heavily HEAVILY censored part of the world- the type of place that you can’t get emails or text messages out of. The type of place where any communication sent over their network WAS being monitored, so you had to speak very carefully.
iMessage was the only 100% reliable method of contact, so I got an iPhone and just haven’t upgraded since.
Apple user for work phone, Android for personal.
Apple is very easy for the company to manage. Everything I need it to do, they have it set up properly and working without fiddling on my end.
I don’t mind it at a work phone, but still probably wouldn’t get one for personal phone. I am not in love with the apple ecosystem. My Android takes more work to manage but the end result is much more customized to my preferences.
I am not in love with the apple ecosystem.
I feel This is not getting enough attention in this post.
Edit:
The monthlies :(
itune subscription fee : $10 Apple tv: $9
Let’s say you save and take the apple one, still, $20 every month! ($240 every year, recursively) On top of prepaid internet subscriptions!
Am I the only one who’s seeing this?
You might be the only one for whom these words makes sense
What flabbergasts me is that they are okay with it.
I’d be upset if any phone prevented me from subscribing to optional cross-platform features, yes.
How is this relevant to anything at all? If you want a streaming music subscription, you can pay for one. If not, don’t. You can use any service you want on an iPhone, and you can likewise use Apple Music on an Android phone. The availability of services is just a totally separate issue.
You can use any service you want on an iPhone,
Is it possible to play music offline, that one receives from, say whatsapp? Or airdropped from another phone?
Of course you can. The iPhone never lost any of the basic features of the iPod and is perfectly capable of storing and playing DRM-free music in popular formats.
Oh, we are back at being jerks to each other because of phone. Lovely.
Fuck em. I don’t want to talk to them anyway. If having a phone preference different than them is a problem
My wife is an iPhone user but that’s because it was a hand me down. I will say, on her behalf, it doesn’t make her less tech savvy-- she’s that way all by herself.
The phone you use doesn’t say anything about your tech insights. Why should it?
However, it may tell you something about the kinds of things the person values. If price matters, you’ll go with the cheapest Android. If features matter, you’ll go with a flagship Android. If privacy matters, you’ll get a specific Android phone and install GrapheneOS on it.
There are also a variety of reasons for getting an iPhone, and they may reflect your values in some way.
There are also a variety of reasons for getting an iPhone, and they may reflect your values in some way.
Yummy. Tell me more
Back in the day, iPhones ran more and better games. I just never switched to Android. To be fair, I’m also currently rocking a four year old iPhone and will continue to do so until it dies. We’ll see what happens from there… I’ll probably just try and get it fixed.
Some people like the looks. Some people buy one because it serves as a status symbol. Some people just go with the flow and buy one, simply because everyone else already has one. Some people appreciate the coherent UI. Some people already use various other Apple products and services, so they prefer to get the synergy of also using an iPhone.
I don’t really care much about any of those things, but I have some special software and hardware that only works with vanilla or OEM Android and iOS. Trust me, I tried lots of different tweaks and hacks, but eventually had to face the harsh reality that nowadays things are specifically designed to prevent people like me from doing whatever I want. If things had worked with Lineage or Graphene, I would obviously be using those instead. Since that isn’t the case, I had to pick the least offensive one from a list of two awful options. This decisions shows that I value the compatibility that comes with an iPhone.
I’m sure there are lots of other reasons too.
I bought a refurbished €100 iPhone SE the year before last, and it’s survived being dropped literally scores of times, awful charging practices, and nobody else wants it. Before that, it was a €125 6+ that I got rid of because it was too big and made my hand hurt. Before that it was an iPhone 4 that was given to me in 2012, which only died when I ran it over with a car.
My reasons are: free/cheap, easy profile transfer, high functionality regardless of how I treat it.
100%, I’m not tech savvy, especially for lemmy standards (I don’t get asked to do tech things for family, but I can generally troubleshoot problems I encounter). I am cheap regarding time and money though, and it’s simply economics. If you’ve got a consistent android alternative where I can spend €375 (assuming the first wasn’t free, but a similar price to the others) for three phones (or fewer) that function well for my purposes (browser, data heavy apps, and a lot of dumb screenshots) over 12 years, I’m down.
I’m still running an original 2016 SE and even 8 years after release it’s still going strong and getting updates, the only reason I’m looking to upgrade is because it’s a struggle to keep it charged all day even with a battery bank case. Idk why all new phones are so massive now but I hate that I can’t find anything anywhere near the same size as the SE.
Mine’s also an original SE, I just got it refurbished 😅 The battery it came with is still going strong, though I also have an external battery pack because I got really into Pokémon go, so I’m not relying on its battery much.
I have had to change iPhone batteries before and replacement batteries weren’t super expensive (€40-70, with a proprietary set of tools that is something like €20). Now that I have a cat it would be a challenge, but it’s not too complicated if you watch a walk-through first and keep track of your screws.
It matches my Stanley
It’s just a stupid phone brand, it doesn’t mean anything.
people say not to trust you on tech insights
This reads out like some childish drama nonsense.
Anyone can have an insightful or idiotic opinion. The OS they use to express it doesn’t matter.
Some people purchase a phone based on looks, some for customization, others for specific apps, some it comes just down to what they can afford
I can come up with strong reasons to use Window or MacOS as your primary desktop os. IOS or Android as your phone OS. Windows / Linux / BSD for a server or appliance OS.
If someone thinks one size fits all THEY are the ones that should not be trusted in terms of tech insights.
Spot on and a great view point.
Agreed.
I can’t think of on3 scenario that windows is the best option for a server. I mean unless its its a virtual desktop for a thin client but still usually would run that in a Linux vm
can’t think of on3 scenario that windows is the best option for a server.
There are plenty of enterprise scenarios: eg an AD server for Windows clients, a DFS server, or servers to run certain Windows-only applications such as SCCM etc.
So windows is the right option only when it’s the only one
BSD has a very narrow set of benefits over Linux based systems I could say the same for BSD which mostly amounts to network appliances / firewalls these days. I would say NAS but Even trueNAS is moving toward linux.
There’s plenty of complete tech idiots on both sides and geniuses on both sides. Lemmy is hardcore Linux, everything should be free. Anything apple is shit on.
Anything apple is shit on.
Because Apple is a horrible company, not because of the technical knowledge of its users.
The users are shit on.
Anything apple is shit on.
Uh ooh…
Propertiary software esp iMessage and other apps I rely on atm, has kinda prevented me from moving to fully android. I have started to use Linux on my laptop permanently though.
But are you using Arch tho?
Nah even better! Linux from Scratch bruh >:3
Considering I go around telling people to install NixOS, that sounds about right.
Seriously though, Apple stuff is usually 90%* of the way there with how I want my devices to work. I don’t miss Android at all honestly, on the desktop it’s a lot closer. So much so that when I use my Linux computer, I miss stuff from macOS and when I use my MacBook, I miss stuff from Linux. (I really really wish there was a GNUstep-based Linux desktop on par with KDE. I should get back to messing around with GNUstep, I wanted to look into getting Wayland support fixed, but too many projects.)
* Let’s hope the EU gives that another couple % for the iPhone.
I’m the only one in my family who has owned iPhones and iPads. I’m also the one that gets asked for tech help.
I’ve used both Android and iOS extensively so I know my way around both.
I would never say that iphone users are clueless by default about tech. Many are, just like android users and some act like apple has the most amazing tech, but I wouldn’t say that iphone users are generally clueless.
I think there are good and bad reasons to have an iphone.
