Her grandfather was a Nazi. She can’t escape that and refuses to address the reality of it so she comes out with headlines like this. It has zero possibility of becoming reality in an effort to create a different narrative around her eventual run at the p.m. Spot.
She’s very quickly becoming someone not worth listening to in Canada.
I disagree but because I have German ancestry there’s probably a nazi somewhere in my family tree so it’s not worth listening to anything I say. That’s good because otherwise you might hear me call you a racist asshole.
On that note, I guess I don’t understand why a Nazi grandfather has any meaning whatsoever. I think her response to someone pointing that out should be “Yup, can’t pick our relatives,” shrug, and move on.
Being descended from a villain or hero doesn’t tell us enough about a person to have any meaning.
Having a sordid family history certainly isn’t disqualifying. Not being honest and transparent about it raises more Red flags than I’m willing to accept from someone angling to run a country.
While there is a part of me that agrees with you, I also try to cut some slack. She is as human as the rest of us and there aren’t many of us who are comfortable talking about our unsavory relatives.
Ideally, she would have whatever it takes to be both open and dismissive of this fact, but of everything that I consider disqualifying, this relatively minor personal failing doesn’t even make the list. Let’s face it, the only people making this an issue are busybodies and dirt-diggers, hardly the people she should be paying attention to.
I’m taking it more as a stain on her due to how she’s handled it rather than the issue itself. If she can’t be honest about something so evidently obvious, how do you trust her to be honest about the issues that face the country?
I don’t think she came across as honest and forthright with how she handled the COVID situation also. She made Trudeau look good and at this point that’s really hard to do.
That, of course, is for you to decide. But (you knew it was coming!) I think it’s counterproductive to expect perfection and making much of this issue just strikes me as petty.
No one expects perfection from a politician, I’m just not going to back someone who so obviously lies and obfuscates. It’s like voting for Doug Ford. Doesn’t help anyone.
If you look at anyone with recent German ancestry, you’ll find nazis. One of my great grandfathers was a nazi. Is that some kind indictment against me? Does it outweigh the other three ancestors that fought against fascism? I don’t understand why people make such a big deal out of this.
Only an indictment against you if you lie about it and cover for your family’s past. Everyone’s got a history of course, it’s about how you acknowledge that and live your life. Her behaviour on this is shameful, therein lies the problem.
One was a farmer, the other an electrician. The ladies were home makers . All served for the allied forces in the war. Certainly not Saints, certainly not Nazis or sympathizers.
Are you sure? Obviously they weren’t very feminist, and so it’s not far fetched they were a bit racist too. Where did the farmer get his land? If he was Canadian was he native, or did someone steal it?
You see where this line of reasoning goes? We’re all descended from bastards. That doesn’t mean anything because it can’t mean anything.
Her grandfather was a Nazi. She can’t escape that and refuses to address the reality of it so she comes out with headlines like this. It has zero possibility of becoming reality in an effort to create a different narrative around her eventual run at the p.m. Spot.
She’s very quickly becoming someone not worth listening to in Canada.
I disagree but because I have German ancestry there’s probably a nazi somewhere in my family tree so it’s not worth listening to anything I say. That’s good because otherwise you might hear me call you a racist asshole.
If you covered for their crimes I’d also consider you an asshole Yes. Acknowledge the past and move forward, don’t hide and cover.
On that note, I guess I don’t understand why a Nazi grandfather has any meaning whatsoever. I think her response to someone pointing that out should be “Yup, can’t pick our relatives,” shrug, and move on.
Being descended from a villain or hero doesn’t tell us enough about a person to have any meaning.
Having a sordid family history certainly isn’t disqualifying. Not being honest and transparent about it raises more Red flags than I’m willing to accept from someone angling to run a country.
While there is a part of me that agrees with you, I also try to cut some slack. She is as human as the rest of us and there aren’t many of us who are comfortable talking about our unsavory relatives.
Ideally, she would have whatever it takes to be both open and dismissive of this fact, but of everything that I consider disqualifying, this relatively minor personal failing doesn’t even make the list. Let’s face it, the only people making this an issue are busybodies and dirt-diggers, hardly the people she should be paying attention to.
I’m taking it more as a stain on her due to how she’s handled it rather than the issue itself. If she can’t be honest about something so evidently obvious, how do you trust her to be honest about the issues that face the country?
I don’t think she came across as honest and forthright with how she handled the COVID situation also. She made Trudeau look good and at this point that’s really hard to do.
That, of course, is for you to decide. But (you knew it was coming!) I think it’s counterproductive to expect perfection and making much of this issue just strikes me as petty.
No one expects perfection from a politician, I’m just not going to back someone who so obviously lies and obfuscates. It’s like voting for Doug Ford. Doesn’t help anyone.
Can you give me a brief rundown on your family history?
Include all the gory details.
If you look at anyone with recent German ancestry, you’ll find nazis. One of my great grandfathers was a nazi. Is that some kind indictment against me? Does it outweigh the other three ancestors that fought against fascism? I don’t understand why people make such a big deal out of this.
Only an indictment against you if you lie about it and cover for your family’s past. Everyone’s got a history of course, it’s about how you acknowledge that and live your life. Her behaviour on this is shameful, therein lies the problem.
What did your grandparents do? I somehow doubt all four were complete saints.
One was a farmer, the other an electrician. The ladies were home makers . All served for the allied forces in the war. Certainly not Saints, certainly not Nazis or sympathizers.
Are you sure? Obviously they weren’t very feminist, and so it’s not far fetched they were a bit racist too. Where did the farmer get his land? If he was Canadian was he native, or did someone steal it?
You see where this line of reasoning goes? We’re all descended from bastards. That doesn’t mean anything because it can’t mean anything.