Yeah, I noticed libs got notably more quite after the failed summer counteroffensive and have slowly been becoming more doomeristic since then. Like, before that a lot of them genuinely believed that Leopards/Abrams etc. were impervious machines that could survive indirect nuke hits and that Russia totally was done for. I also don’t think any of them anticipated that Russia and it’s tiny nominal GDP would be able produce more ammunition then NATO in it’s entirety.