Can’t we just move past the whole gay straight thing. We all like somethint and it’s certainly almost never just black and white
But me likey neat little boxes uwu
And when they’re not neat, just get smaller boxes :3
Liking tomboys and/or femboys is always in alignment with any allosexual orientation
But what if I’m attracted to androgyny? I feel like a lot if people are and I don’t know a word for that.
For reference I’m talking about memes like: My taste in women: Picture of LeanBeefPatty My taste in men: Picture of F1nnster
I think finnster had some coming out video, so might not be accurate anymore. But I see similar memes a lot.
I’m wildly attracted to both of those people and just call it Bisexuality. Classifying attraction is kinda dumb anyway, as there’s no point in setting up heuristics that will have that many edge cases and exceptions.
I also call it bi - but I’m 40, I think younger people are more fluid and open to other labels.
Being straight and being attracted to women who present less femme could just be straight-with-a-preference or -type, could be bi/pan, could be higher on the Kinsey scale, or the existing but niche terms are flixisexual (/romantic), skoliosexual, or could even be androgynesexual, or androsexual (attracted to masculine traits, regardless of birth gender)
For reference: LeanBeefPatty.jpg F1NN5TER.jpg
f1nn5ter man?
I strongly recommend reading their (utterly fascinating) Wikipedia page. I’ll just screw up the details by re-hashing it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1NN5TER
Ooh, my favorite. Girls that look like boys and boys that look like girls, as well as anyone who generally looks androgynous.
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Just admit your enby or bi. Its easier than trying to explain why. Its not your problem if people don’t like femboys. Femboys are beautiful.
I think they’re implying that they had sex but that he’s still contemplating it. There’s a bunch of condoms hanging off the nightstand lol
Not to Mention that he don’t wear the tank top anymore.
I don’t get all of these labels, to be honest.
Creating a whole spectrum of labels seems like the wrong direction - if I’m attracted to someone, that’s all there is to it. The rest don’t matter, especially if it’s about other people’s relationships, then all the more so - that’s their business, and as long as nobody is getting harmed, then we need to support them.
This was a popular mindset when I was a teen. We always said “labels are for soup cans” when it comes to sexuality.
If it’s pretty, fuck it. There is no gay.
don’t encourage the weird car dudes who spend more time underneath their car than their partner, they’ll get tetanus
I think you are right, but after a milennia of religious obligations to be 1) man or 2) woman and no other couples allowed than 1 + 2, it might help people sort it out.
I mean it’s not like a cis man likes all women either.
So in the meantime, before we become an enlightened startrek society, it can come in handy I guess.
I kinda agree, but also want to offer a different perspective. I agree that the more specific labels are not efficient for communication in most cases, because nobody knows all of them and it’s easier to just say who you find attractive.
However, they can still be useful to discover more about yourself. As someone who’s aromantic and asexual I’ve found that many of the labels in the community caused me to ask myself the question “how do I feel about this”. Before finding “my” labels I just kinda felt like “nope” about anything related to relationships, but all the more specific labels and spectra have made it much more clear to me what I want and what I don’t want. They also provide a way for people to find others with the same experiences as them, which can feel incredibly validating.
These specific labels are a jargon for queer people, they make sense in their context, but are not useful when trying to communicate with most people from outside of the community.
I agree.
It should be more about who you like, not what people call them/you/your labels/their labels.
I always feel like the labels are there to make the “heteronormative” types feel more comfortable, which isn’t really working for them either so…
I dunno, I’m just a person who likes people who meet criteria that makes my brain release the happy chemicals.
I agree with the “not getting all these labels” but they aren’t really for me. I’m not out trying to find someone to date or bang or whatever.
I was having a conversation with some co-workers last week about the difference between bisexual and pansexual. I might have been wrong in my explaination. I’m a straight white man (so my knowledge is limited), but I’m usually more open than my (normally older) co-workers. They didn’t understand the need for it, or why it mattered. I said well apparently LGBTQ people had enough interactions to need a new word. If you aren’t dating or in that world then you wouldn’t understand the need for a more detailed definition of Bi vs Pan.
For the record they just thought it should all be lumped under Bi with no need for an extra trans inclusion word since (in their mind) trans was already included.
I think I’m more attracted to tomboys but I know I’m straight
The tragic hilarity of toxic masculinity is that it strives to define “a man” by what he isn’t, in an attempt to preserve an exclusive and narrowly defined top slot of a social hierarchy. But all one has to do is claim behaviors as a different group, and the definition contracts accordingly. At the same time, the fact that said “masculine” definition is malleable to the point of sheer fiction, evades everyone in that group.
Sound alike the gymnastics to define racial categories to preserve a social hierarchy as well. What is white? Well it’s people from here and here, not Irish, not Jewish, etc. Oh wait, Irish are allowed now but not Okies. Okay, they’re allowed now but no Jews! Now, Jewish can be allowed sometimes but no Italians. Alright, Italians, but no Jews, Irish are also okay, some Hispanic people if they can pass, certain Asians can be let in, etc. Etc. It always go on like that. It stays malleable just to make it exclusive.
You gotta be kidding yourself if you think Asians are let in.
turkey? iran? armenia?
Men is what my ooga booga caveman brain defines as not female and not unkown. Non-binary folk are unkown to caveman brain for example. Trans women are women and same with trans men. Femboys are close enough to female that ooga booga caveman brain wants to put dick in some.
Reject modern prescriptivism, embrace caveman brain descriptivism!
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Nonbinary identities kinda break the idea of straight or gay since straightness or gayness are depended on the gender of the person, so when that gender is outside of the binary it doesn’t work right.
Binary.exe stopped working.
We are on lemmy we can acknowledge the .BLOB file type.
Not binary.bin?
>.bin I feel like thats not now it works. Clearly, we should progress beyond traditional
gender identityboolean computation and progress to ternary computation
Or maybe a conversation driver. Y’all tell me.
I like the meme but let’s get that straight (no pun intended): both tomboys and femboys break out of the gender binary. Their very existence puts heteronormativity into question. If a boy can look like a girl and be it just having long hair, that’s the beginning of the end of an oppressive system that should end as soon as possible.
this is the way uwu~
I agree, and that’s for the best, fuck oppressive gender stereotypes.
I like your optimism but we will always be a minority that will be thrown under the bus when the economy goes bad.
I’m tired of figuring out what’s gay or straight. I just wanna fuck in peace.
This seems to be the attitude of most I encounter nowadays. I think every friend I have who I’ve asked about their sexuality tend to reply “I dunno, I just like what I like.”
It seems the labels are slowly starting to lose their use, which to me is a good thing. It means we’re getting to the point where we don’t need it to feel normal anymore because it’s just normal by default. We’re not quite there yet, but it shows we’re moving in the right direction.
Not that people can’t use labels if it makes them more comfortable, I’m just glad more people are starting not to need them because they’re already accepted.I’ve noticed this too both in those around me and myself (mid 20s). I don’t identify as queer and have always been “straight”, but more recently the thought of sucking a trans girl’s dick is kinda hot? I’m not attracted to guys at all, so it would have to be someone who is otherwise extremely feminine, but eh?
I don’t know what to call it and I honestly don’t really care to think about or try to label it because it’s a worthless distinction. It helps that most of my friends are queer so I’ve had any and all stereotypes/expectations surrounding attraction completely shattered, and I’ve found this to be true of more people I meet over time who don’t identify with queer culture at all. I’ll be interested to see how this continues to change in the next 20 years.
“A hole is a hole”
“you can’t say it’s only half!”
I am a dwarf and I’m digging a hole…
Any hole is a goal
What’s with changing her art style suddenly? It looks like he’s in bed with a 4 year old
Her?
It’s… An incredibly simple and common way to emphasize something?
Maybe if you’re familiar with the trope I guess. I don’t watch anime, I had no idea what the artist was going for there.
They both changed art style
It’s a common trope in anime commonly done to highlight a silly situation
Oh oh, I had this exact train of thought recently! The femboy part downward, at least.
It set off an introspective spiral for a little while that made me recontextualize a whole bunch of shit throughout my life. Turns out not only am I bi, but it has actually been kind of really obvious the whole time.
/shrug
Hello, I’m here to change your sexuality, there is no such thing as straight or gay, in my opinion we are all pansexual, but some of us are gynephilic (attracted to feminity) others androphilic (attracted to masculinity) some are both.
Of course women can be masculine and men can be feminine, what matters is presentation, you’re attracted to presentation not gender.
Ergo if a femboy is so feminine that you’re attracted to them it’s normal, it just means you like feminine presenting individuals. (Means you’re straight, but what does straight even mean bruh)
However there is something important to take into account, romantical attraction, you can only want to date women but like a more manly presentation in that case you are still androphilic BUT you’re romantically attracted to women. Which is probably an oversimplification of butch lesbianism, or liking tomboys.
This is my theory on the subject, it’s probably flawed somewhere but I need other eyes to see it.
All in all, like who you want, be who you want.
I agree with this, putting up straight lines between this shit is so dumb. Especially when you see what a broad array of fetishes there are, but when it comes to sex/gender you can only be strictly straight/gay/bi thats stupid.
