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As many of you know, I posted recently about my experiences and outlook on Kagi, the paid search engine. It's gotten some positive press recently, ironically right after I made my blog post about why I no longer liked or trusted it. This blog post was called "Why I Lost Faith In Kagi" and was a pretty simple quick collection of my thoughts that I primarily wrote so it'd be easier to find again later to link to people when discussing Kagi versus making it a fedi thread I couldn't search for easily later. Across the four social media platforms I linked this blog post on, I'd say it got a total of about 40 likes and few reblogs.
https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html
I say this because this morning I woke up to an email from Kagi's CEO, Vlad, who had seen the post and was upset about it. I have an email address listed on my blog (which is why I didn't bother removing it from these logs), which is what he sent his emails to. I am posting this entire email chain in this thread and will briefly post my thoughts about it, but I feel like it's something that needs to be seen. Please take note of the subject of the email as well (EDIT: It got cropped out sorry, the subject is "Fatih [sic] can not be lost"). Also, since the alt text would get extremely long with some of the transcripts, I've provided a text dump of the emails here for screen reader users and will offer a more abridged description in the alt text: https://d-shoot.net/files/kagiemails.txt
First time this community came up on my feed and it’ll be the last time I read it, as I’m filtering it out. Seems like a couple permanently-online perpetual victims looking for attention. Here’s a tip, kids: getting emailed by someone who wants to refute your assertions is not abnormal. In the real world, people will try to defend themselves when you make allegations about them or their work. Receiving an unsolicited email is not harassment and it does not cross any boundaries.
Burying your head in the sand and yelling “you can’t argue with me because I’m not listening” is how a toddler interacts with their world.
why do people think it’s a sick burn to write “I saw you strangers talking to each other on the other side of the room and I had to come over here to tell you I don’t like you and I *won’t* hang out with you!”
fucking right? like it’s so important to come here and scream a barely changed variant of “I disagree that the ceo is acting unhinged because reason not given” and demand a Very Serious Debate with us
like fuck me, I’ll take a post defending the ceo if it’s not all bad faith debatebro shit and low effort garbage. if it’s a bad point not made maliciously I’ll just downvote it. there’s also a fair few folks (including some of our regulars) who use kagi enough they can’t dump it because there’s no good alternative. that’s fine! this isn’t a fucking purity test, but this is a honeypot for posters we don’t want here. this instance and its communities will never choose growth over quality.
also, if any of these fuckers are going to come at a queer person for sharing a tech opinion they don’t personally like, they’d best have something much stronger than “no I think lori’s the unhinged one” cause we’ve seen this game played before
We all use impure shit, there is no ethical yadda under yadda. I might always have to use Windows. David’s on Twitter. Probably more than half the sub uses Chrome. Every time a North American gets a package in a cardboard box they’re funding one of America’s shittiest GOP megadonors. But ain’t nobody in here defending Musk or Pichai or Uihlein or Nadella like the weird nerds meme.
actually, i don’t think possessing the ability to send email entitles you to “”“debate”“” with anyone who publishes material disagreeing with you or the way your company runs, and i’m pretty sure responding with a (polite) “fuck off” is a perfectly reasonable approach to the kinds of people who believe they have an inalienable right to argue with you
I think you might have just made it clear for me why the worst debatelords on the internet are rallying around this asshole. he’s just them but with the perceived prestige of being the CEO of a very momentarily successful internet company
First time this community came up on my feed and it’ll be the last time I read it, as I’m filtering it out. Seems like a couple permanently-online perpetual victims looking for attention. Here’s a tip, kids: getting emailed by someone who wants to refute your assertions is not abnormal. In the real world, people will try to defend themselves when you make allegations about them or their work. Receiving an unsolicited email is not harassment and it does not cross any boundaries.
Burying your head in the sand and yelling “you can’t argue with me because I’m not listening” is how a toddler interacts with their world.
good fucking riddance
why do people think it’s a sick burn to write “I saw you strangers talking to each other on the other side of the room and I had to come over here to tell you I don’t like you and I *won’t* hang out with you!”
fucking right? like it’s so important to come here and scream a barely changed variant of “I disagree that the ceo is acting unhinged because reason not given” and demand a Very Serious Debate with us
like fuck me, I’ll take a post defending the ceo if it’s not all bad faith debatebro shit and low effort garbage. if it’s a bad point not made maliciously I’ll just downvote it. there’s also a fair few folks (including some of our regulars) who use kagi enough they can’t dump it because there’s no good alternative. that’s fine! this isn’t a fucking purity test, but this is a honeypot for posters we don’t want here. this instance and its communities will never choose growth over quality.
also, if any of these fuckers are going to come at a queer person for sharing a tech opinion they don’t personally like, they’d best have something much stronger than “no I think lori’s the unhinged one” cause we’ve seen this game played before
We all use impure shit, there is no ethical yadda under yadda. I might always have to use Windows. David’s on Twitter. Probably more than half the sub uses Chrome. Every time a North American gets a package in a cardboard box they’re funding one of America’s shittiest GOP megadonors. But ain’t nobody in here defending Musk or Pichai or Uihlein or Nadella like the weird nerds meme.
It’s like the classic comic “we should improve society somewhat!” “And yet you participate in society!”
“you claim to be a socialist and yet you have the money required to survive in a capitalist society, what a hypocrite”
actually, i don’t think possessing the ability to send email entitles you to “”“debate”“” with anyone who publishes material disagreeing with you or the way your company runs, and i’m pretty sure responding with a (polite) “fuck off” is a perfectly reasonable approach to the kinds of people who believe they have an inalienable right to argue with you
I think you might have just made it clear for me why the worst debatelords on the internet are rallying around this asshole. he’s just them but with the perceived prestige of being the CEO of a very momentarily successful internet company
Agreed
oh cool I finally get to tell someone named spez to fuck himself