• 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    If we say Hamas is good, the response, without fail, is “oh so you think [insert mix of atrocity propaganda and real Hamas shortcomings] is good???” Then we have to clarify, and sort through which of the allegations are bullshit and which are real issues, and only after all that sidetracking do we get to saying we really mean critical support.

    I’m suggesting we just say critical support from the jump. Why set yourself up to backtrack or clarify?

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      4 months ago

      Disprove the atrocity propaganda, say you don’t care if they’re religious because they’re doing the work. You’ll get the same response if you say critical support from the jump.

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        4 months ago

        You’ll get the same response if you say critical support from the jump.

        Yes, but it doesn’t land the same when you say critical support from beginning to end. If you start with “good” and switch to “critical support” that comes off as backtracking or trying to weasel around what you mean.

        but it’s a meme and “it’s good” works so much better.

        It’s just not that great of a meme. It flattens the best take (critical support) into something resembling what the pro-genocide crowd accuses us of (blindly endorsing even the bad parts of anti-imperialist resistance).

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          4 months ago

          What bad parts do you keep pointing to? The meme will become much worse if I try to include a lot of nuance. That’s why people don’t like “leftist memes.” There’s a reason why “Stalin did nothing wrong” is a meme and not “here’s a few good things Stalin did and a few I don’t like as much.”

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            4 months ago

            “Stalin did nothing wrong” is a shit meme because it could be taken as being analogous to the “Hitler did nothing wrong”, the premise being that it’s obvious he mostly did wrong things but saying the contrary, being ironic. Unknowing people will take the former like the latter.

            Now “Stalin shouldn’t have stopped at Berlin” on the other hand…