• 0oWow@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    It’s sad that Microsoft insists on such a dangerous idea in the name of profits.

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    7 months ago

    In a family and SOHO setting there is an easy way around it,even without alternative media creating tools and Win11:

    Active directory. Yeah. Microsoft. But not really.

    Samba can be used as an AD server for ages now, it’s free,cheap and can run on a Pi or some NAS. These days it’s fairly easy to set up as long as you only use it for Identification services and basic networking. And Microsoft won’t bother you with their shit ever, as they don’t dare to push corporate clients too much.

    I can recommend it very much. There are also full GUI distributions available,e.g. univention.

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      7 months ago

      Man, having to setup GPO to stop a lot of stupid horseshit is definitely not consumer friendly, and I don’t wanna do it. Microsoft should just stop.

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    7 months ago

    Pretty sure I have seen a prompt suggesting switching to MS account before and MS already hides local account creation during setup.

    It’s not like local accounts will disappear unless there will be an actual redesign of whole OS which is very unlikely since then you loose all the backwards compatibility.

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    7 months ago

    I don’t know if they’re aware of this, but they’re also urging users to ditch Microsoft as a matter of course.

  • Das_Bruno@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    I’m sure they fucking will. Can’t harvest your data (as readily) if you aren’t online. Fuckers.

      • Lexi Sneptaur@pawb.social
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        7 months ago

        I use Linux on my desktop at work, and sometimes you might end up with an apple computer instead depending on the employer.

        The monopoly is slipping.

        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          Same. The Linux setup there is a fucking mess though… AD authentication freezes login for a minute or so if you switch networks at the wrong moment, puppet keeps messing with the system and recently they installed clamav as a live malware scanner on all machines, making them eat batteries for breakfast and slowing down even menial tasks. If you have admin rights, they refuse to add your user to sudoers but instead create a new admin user (another indicator that they’re just really coming from windows) which everybody just uses to add their original user to sudoers, which was a nice workaround but which they now noticed and want to prohibit via puppet or user rights or something. It’s just such a mess. I mean, still leagues ahead of using windows, but a corporate environment really is a machine that transforms time and money into a terrible experience for everybody.

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            7 months ago

            I mean, scanning your download folder, if there is something new, could make sense in a high-risk environment. But only if.

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            7 months ago

            IT departments will have to adapt, of course.

            I mean they (actually we) usually have a bad time even transitioning from windows 10 to 11, Linux will 100% be a mess for a good while.

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              Oh we have a dedicated Linux service contract with a dedicated Linux support company that has technicians just to deal with Linux issues and provide the Linux setup. We’ve had time to adapt. I guess some bloke still decided that there just had to be a malware scanner and now we all have to eat shit. This is much less a lesson for it departments and much more a lesson that the people who manage stuff just have other goals than the people working with the tools that are managed, so you end up with somebody who wants to cover their ass in case something goes wrong in the future and makes it a terrible experience for everybody in the process but can sell it as a necessity to the people below and as action to the people above.

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                Why don’t they go with Microsoft Defender for Linux? I have never used it so don’t know if it’s still a battery hog…

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        7 months ago

        In a corporate setting you’re probably using Active Directory for authentication and don’t have a local account anyway.

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        I had a ying yang work experience with two companies as a pupil.

        One used Linux and I had unexpected skills making me solve and create a product/feature. The project manager was kind and a nerd like me. The chef was sweet kind.

        The other company used Microsoft products in every corner like a hardcore football fan. The project manager was kinda toxic and it was hard to explain something to him as he pretended to have knowledge and the chef was rarely in a happy mood and often screaming at him. He didn’t knew many things about Microsoft products and browser itself, he just coded and didn’t understood its entirety back knowledge. He expected me to be some master student and graded me bad for skills no pupil had in our class as we just only learned Java in school, I could use all langauages they used and it still wasn’t enough.

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          Y u no program like senior engineer when you come out of school. We even pay you competitive ( minimum ) IT wage!

          Code more for company in your own time so you can catch up.

          1/5 performance review.

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      This means nothing to the average user because the difference doesn’t change their perceived experience

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    7 months ago

    Not that I’ve touched it with a ten foot pole in as many years but - Microsoft can bite my shiny metal ass.