So I have balls and yeah they’re the first thing on my body to start to smell. I can skip a shower if I’m in a hurry and I don’t smell much. That’s with working a job that’s usually physical. I was a punk kid fucking punk girls when I was younger and we didn’t bathe every day. I didn’t notice much smell then.

Now I see these ads regularly that are like hey women you stink after 12 hrs 5/10. What’s up?

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    Your balls start to smell first? Wonder why. Inadequate wiping? My armpits will start to go musky after about 4 days in the same clothes. That’s my first thing to go. 🤷‍♂️

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      I’m 40 years old and my balls are quite long. Different body bacteria maybe? I shower after I shit so it’s got nothing to do with wiping.

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        You don’t stand on all fours while shitting? No wonder your balls aren’t getting a share of that shit.

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      My armpits will start to go musky after about 4 days in the same clothes

      Why the fuck are you wearing the same clothes for 4 fucking days? The only profession in which that is remotely acceptable is if you’re on the front fucking line of a warzone, fighting for your life.

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        Relax bud. I sit still most days. Web developer. Half the week I work from home. Usually wear the same clothes for about a week. Not socks or underwear though, change those almost every day. T-shirt normally change after 2-3 days. 👍 Shower about 2-3 times per week. I use Aleppo soap. It keeps you clean for much longer, too.

        lol, so worked up about it, too. You okay?

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            Another one who can’t grasp the fact that bodies are different. I expected more from a fellow dev. Shame. 🫤

            You do realize I shower more often than 4 days, right? That’s what I’ve been saying all over this thread, that after 4 days is when I do start to stink a little bit. 👍

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              Nah breh ive worked with people like you too often. Theres always one on the team that fuckin stinks because they think “bodies are different”. Thank god I work remote so I never have to sit by people like you ever again.

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                Keep talking to me like you’ve met me before…

                I don’t stink. I shower way before I start to stink. I told you, all of you, I start to stink a little bit at day 4, but I shower about every other day, at the gym twice a week and at home during the weekend. It all amounts to no hygiene issues. I am also very thorough with my junk after peeing and no. 2. I wipe with paper and wash with water if I can’t get it perfectly clean. You don’t know shit about my hygiene so leave me alone. Prejudiced jerk.

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      I have a really good sense of smell; trust me, you smell after one day and just can’t smell it yourself until day four. I’m sorry if this comes as a surprise.

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        Asked my friend today if I smell, a day after I showered. And I did some pretty rigorous activities today as well. They agreed to smell me, but said I don’t smell.

        What now? Trust your smell, when you have never smelled me? You’re just as full of shit as everyone in this thread replying to me. Not because I’m saying you don’t have a good sense of smell. I bet you do, and I bet you can smell people who do smell bad. But I don’t smell bad. Deal with it. I’m really starting to think it’s a jealousy thing here. People can’t accept that I have good hygiene for some absolutely fucking absurd reason.

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        You don’t produce as much oil when you shower less which is what the smelliest bacteria consume.

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          Exactly. I started showering less often but with more naturally oily soaps (Aleppo soap mainly) and I don’t need to shower as often since a few years back now. Feels much better. Less stress, better hygiene, no such problems, no itching anywhere, no nothing.

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            Must not live in a very humid area, 4 days wouldn’t fly here for anyone that goes outside at all

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              Humid or or not I find 4 is doable but 3 is more ideal but only if I don’t do any strenuous activity. If I do then I pretty much like to shower it all off.

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                And this is exactly what is happening with me. I don’t actually wait until 4 days, because if I do I start to smell. People in this thread are confused about that and down voting according to their confusion lol.

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                  I actually do sunday and wednesday nights so go the four but its the end of the weekend when I can sorta afford it. Its not like I stink to high heaven. I can just sorta tell that really 3 is the sweet spot.

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        I can tell when I do smell. I can also sense my deodorant until I start to smell. So nothing wrong with my sense of smell. It’s actually quite sensitive. I’m just very clean, I suppose. I don’t sweat much when I move a lot. 🤷‍♂️

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          My momma always said when you first smell yourself, other people have been smelling you for two days.

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    Funny. I just saw such an ad. Advising that you use their deodorant spray everywhere, yea everywhere. (Lady in commercial proceeds to spray her crotch)

    Hmmm. Maybe just to sell more product. Or maybe it’s a mindfuck.

    In the 50s they sold Lysol to deodorize sinks, toilets, rugs etc. Then advised to ladies to spray their crotch with it too. Basically saying that a woman is just another home appliance. Which is mindfucky

    I prefer a bit of funk on a girl. With a touch of floral perfume.

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    If it’s for competing brands it’s either evidence of either a gaslighting cartel, or tons of mimicry and breeze testing in the ad teams’ thinking.

    Making women feel uncertain is an old tactic for body care products.

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    I don’t know but I’m honestly convinced that they put something in women’s deodorant so that we need to buy more of it and it makes us stink more because when I start using fancy women’s deodorant I fucking stink like God awful and I can’t even stand my own smell but when I stop using deodorant or can’t afford it for a while I don’t smell bad and I can’t figure it out

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    The full body deoderant people are expanding into the male market. Not sure why they felt the need to change the name, I think it’s the same stuff? 🤔

    Women:

    https://lumedeodorant.com/

    Men:

    https://shopmando.com/

    Note, same company. I haven’t tried it, some reviews say it smells funky, like sour milk or bad cheese, which, you know, I don’t need to spend money to smell funky. LOL.

    https://selfmagnitude.com/blog/brutally-honest-product-review-lume-deodorant

    I did learn, after buying a hot tub, that men and women have a pH difference, so that might have something to do with it.

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1034/j.1600-0846.2001.70206.x

    “A statistically significant difference in skin pH between men (mean pH=5.80) and women (mean pH=5.54) was found, with women being more acidic than men (P<0.01). No difference between right and left arm was found. In men, the area closest to the wrist had significantly lower pH values compared with the proximal sites. This was not the case in women. Skin surface pH decreased during normal working hours in both genders.”

    Since Lume and Mando started their big marketing push, other known brands are doing the full body treatment, I think I’d trust them over Lume and Mando which look to be mostly marketing.

    Secret (guessing for women):
    https://secret.com/en-us/shop/aluminum-free-whole-body-cream

    Old Spice (guessing for men):
    https://oldspice.com/total-body/

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      People produce different amounts of body odor. Also it’s better for your skin to not use shampoo every day. 4-5 times a week is totally fine.

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        I never use shampoo, only soap. I live in a place that is always hot and humid. We’re in out coldest time of the year now and it’s currently 27 degrees Celsius outside at 0830

        Trust me people nee to shower once a day or you can smell them across the street

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          I meant to write soap, not shampoo, my bad.

          Probably has to do with the temperature where you live though… It’s different in colder climates, which is apparently most of the world if that’s really the coldest time of year. I’d suggest to try showering with just water once in a while. It should remove most of the sweat and odor, without attacking you skin.

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            Yeah I think when most people say they shower every day, they don’t mean they are literally washing everywhere with soap. I shower every day (yes it’s hot here too) but shampoo hair maybe twice a week, soap on my whole body usually only once a month or so and usually because I want to exfoliate. Most showers I am very selective in what actually gets washed.

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          Maybe people from those extremes shouldn’t advise the rest of the world what to do then.

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      Reminds me of an old roommate I had. He didn’t think he smelled either… he did… it was rough

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        Been there with two coworkers back when I managed a restaurant. They couldn’t believe they smelled when I had to have that terrible conversation with them. One improved, the other didn’t. I actually had to fire the second guy.

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      I don’t smell if I skip a shower. It doesn’t happen often. Believe me my wife and my coworkers are very direct, they would tell me if I stink.

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    The ads I’m seeing have been for “full body” deodorants. Targeted at both men and women…

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    While being in the same area while my parents are watching TV and I’ve seen Lume womans deodorant commercials quite a bit. Absolutely no clue why it’s becoming more prevalent.

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      I use an adblocker, but I also drive a very old car and unfortunately my cd player just broke. I can confirm that there are tons of vaginal deodorant ads on the radio, always presented as a conversation between two women. There’s no intention to be funny, they’re trying to sound like a natural conversation two women would have in private and completely failing at coming across as anything short of awkward.

      “So it works well for you?” “Yes! It lasts up to 24 hours, and four out of five gynecologists recommend it!”

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      Believe it or not I watch regular TV! I travel for work constantly and I have TV on in the hotel room. It makes me feel less lonely. That’s how I’m seeing these ads. On my PCs it’s Firefox+ublock origin.

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          I’ve already been overly specific on this account and I don’t want to get doxxed. I install and service computer networks of a certain kind.

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            Reasonable enough. I do something like that myself. When a piece of remote and highly specialized computer system shuts itself, I’m the one who flies in to fix it, in addition to the occasional mobilization and servicing.

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        Same here brother. When im on the road, its ads for dick pills and antidepressants on tv for days

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        Actually traveling today. Watching tv and three minutes in it’s an ad for female all body deodorant. Christ.

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        You don’t need to be super smart to use an adblocker, you just need to be relatively smart and have some selfrespect. He’s definitely cool, though.

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    I’ve been seeing those too. And one of them says “72 hour protection” like what? You’re not showering for three days but you’re just going to febreeze you vageeze and call it good ? Insane behavior

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      True story after the pandemic sort of settled down I had been laid off for my job as so many others had and I started doing Uber and I noticed that people smelled bad when they got in my car but nine times out of 10 it was women that smelled bad like with body odor more than men and it was mostly younger women in their early twenties that were smelling this way so maybe it’s just that women of a certain age tend to have more body odor than guys nowadays fuck I don’t know It was just something I noticed to the point that I appointed it out to my wife

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    As a woman, I prefer to clean that area with isopropyl and tea tree oil. Call me crazy. I’ve been verbally berated for choosing to do this, by people who claim it’s “bad for your mucus membranes and flora”! You know what I don’t need because of that? Some expensive deodorant marketed specifically for that region of the body. Smells are a sign of an infection.

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      As a human, I prefer to clean my eyes with tea tree oil and isopropyl alcohol. People may get upset by this, but I never have to clean sleep out of my eyes.

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        I can understand that. I have used isopropyl on my face, followed by tea tree oil to cure my acne, in the past. Both of which got close to my tear ducts. I had grey mucus come out of my right eye, and suddenly a bunch of pressure that I thought was a sinus headache subsided. I swear by isopropyl and tea tree oil now.

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      Ma’am, I’m not going to berate you at all. It’s your genitalia, you do what you want.

      However, for anyone else coming along and taking this statement as true because someone has a vagina, please, please consult with someone that has actual knowledge before accepting that smells = infection. While some infections can be detected by smell, not all smells are signs of infection.

      In truth, most people don’t get up close to female genitalia to know what smells are and aren’t “bad”. Of those infectious possibilities, two can be direct result of doing things like applying alcohol, tea tree oil, or other harsh substances.

      Those two are a yeast infection, the other is bacterial vaginosis. If you’ve never smelt yeast that’s growing rapidly, you can at least have that experience by buying some and letting it grow in a jar. The scent when it’s out of control in and around the genitals is almost exactly the same, though with other scents present as well. The most common cause of a yeast infection is when something occurs to disrupt the normative balance of the genitals, giving the yeast a chance to go crazy without competition. Antibiotics in particular are very likely to cause them.

      Bacterial vaginosis can be related to several different types of bacteria. Staph is possible, gardnerella, prevotella, bacterioides, and others may be present. Most often, this happens when something kills off the lactobacilli present on and in the genitals, allowing the other kinds to go crazy.

      Sometimes sex with a new partner can bring new strains of those, throwing the balance off until things adjust. But, it can be caused by douche use, iron deficiency (in limited circumstances), stress, and/or as an opportunistic effect after other infections, or even after antibiotic use.

      Now, please note that bacterial vaginosis being set off by sex doesn’t mean it’s an STD in the usual sense. You could have new strains of bacteria introduced in other ways, and it happens often enough after hot tub sessions you’d likely never use one at a hotel ever again if you were smart.

      Again, bacterial vaginosis is not a guarantee of sexual contact with a new partner. It’s just one possibility of many.

      While the smell of BV can vary a good bit, the classic smell is the “fishy” odor.

      Smell is not always detectable when a yeast or bacterial infection is ongoing, so if you’re having unusual itching, changes in your normal discharges (and every cis vagina has discharge to some degree), or burning (particularly during urination), it’s worth talking to your doctor/gynecology specialist.

      Now, there are plenty of other smells in and around vaginas. The two you’ll run across the most are a “musky + meaty” scent, and a slightly sour, almost tangy scent. Neither is a sign of disease or disorder, and they may occur together. There can be a sharp, citrusy scent along with those or by itself. Again, none of those smells are a problem, and many find them quite pleasant.

      If you want your genitalia to smell healthy and normal, rule one is to be easy on them. No harsh cleansers, ever. No alcohol, no tea tree oil, no antibacterial soaps. Indeed, all you need to bathe genitals of any kind is plenty of warm water, two hands, and a soft cloth. Soap is not necessary, and the wrong soaps will possibly cause problems. If you can’t do without soaps, ask your gynecologist (if you have a cis vagina), or your GP, they can make recommendations as to brands. Same for penises, btw. You don’t need soap, just hands, a soft cloth, and clean water.

      Seriously, genitalia are mostly self cleaning. The more you interfere in that, the more likely problems are to occur. The goal is to get rid of dead skin cells, excess oils, and any waste material that might still be present. Even the oils don’t require soap to control. Soap strips all of it away, and that’s not a good thing. You just want to keep it from building up.

      For labia, you do want to lightly use a cloth or hands in all the folds. For a penis, the same, even if you’re uncircumcised. Just roll the foreskin back and gently wash with hands, or cloth, and clean water (warm is better, but not absolutely mandatory).

      The source for all of this is twenty years of working as a nurse’s assistant, giving baths to patients and being directly responsible and accountable for patient hygiene and skin health. Every bit of this is what you’d get from a doctor that deals with genitals, and is current best practice for anyone and everyone.

      Again, anyone can do whatever they want with their own genitals. Not saying anyone has to follow best practices. Just be aware that the more you deviate, the higher the chances of recurring problems.

      Also, nobody needs deodorant on their genitals, ever. Even people with illnesses that cause bad odors that aren’t from infections, any deodorant is going to cause more problems than it fixes. Think about it, you’re applying something that holds dead skin and moisture in a warm and dark place. Any antimicrobial properties of the product are going to end eventually, and you now have damaged the normative balance. It’s setting up the worst possible outcome.

      Lume? The people that own the company and do the commercials should be ashamed of themselves.

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        Thanks for the thorough post!

        This is maybe TMI, but since you seem very knowledgeable, I’ll ask it anyway, sorry!

        Generally I’m not a very active person. But lately I’ve been trying to work out more. I’ve noticed that on workout days, the scent is a lot stronger there even after showering and wiping with a cloth. If I wait a few days before working out again, the smell dissipates. So it’s not like there’s an infection or anything, just sweat. Any tips?

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          Generally, “gym funk” is a matter of the normative bacteria going nuts (pun intended) from the added heat and moisture. The best way to handle that is upping the exfoliation with a longer scrub, and paying extra attention to the taint/perineum and be extra thorough drying. A lot of the time, after a shower, the heat has caused the scrotum to loosen up, or labia to swell a bit. This means it can be difficult to really get everything fully exfoliated and dry.

          The way I’ve described it before is that the taint is like a watershed. It’s dammed up by fabric, so it catches a lot of the detritus after the rain of a good workout. It’s a bit more difficult for guys because of the way the scrotum can hold onto things, and get in the way, but women can also run into issues with things sticking to the region if they/their caregiver doesn’t pay extra attention.

          Someone else mentioned blow drying the area, and that really can work well. Towels can only pull off so much water, and the groin is usually towards the end of the drying process, so they’re damp. You sometimes see older gym rats doing it in the locker room because we’ve run into jock itch from not drying all the way, and that’s no fun at all, but you can wait until you’re home. Works just well for women, but you’d need to at least partly cover the labia, even if the labia minora are hidden by the majora.

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        As a guy one thing I notice - there’s a difference in how good I dry my parts after showering. Things feel cleaner during the day if I manage to get all the moisture away but before hiding my best parts in underwear shortly after showering.

        I have wondered many times (and here is the place people can answer) - am I the only one who uses the hairdryer on his balls after drying his hair? (When I do, I always have this “thank god nobody sees this” feeling)

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          I’ve heard people talking about old men blow drying their pubes at the gym but never seen it myself. Personally I shave that area so drying with a towel is fine.

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      Smells are a sign of an infection

      No, they most certainly are not. You have been badly, badly, misinformed.

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      I’d be more worried that isopropyl would irritate your skin, but, hey, if it doesn’t bother you, good for you!

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    You’ve obviously escaped the Old Spice full body deodorant for men commercials running perpetually on YouTube.

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      Yeah I don’t watch much YouTube. I do have regular TV on in the hotels I stay in for work which is where I see these ads.