I see it referenced constantly here, not quite as much on Reddit. I know what it means, but just wondering why such the popularity over on this side of the fence?
It has become more common as times gone on, and people on Lemmy love to complain (like a leftist Twitter), I would imagine that Reddit is too fragmented for everyone to care about it all at the same time. (Who from r/radio is going to care.) But I imagine that a gaming/internet only subreddit would complain about enshittification as well.
It’s like the weeping angels from doctor who, the moment you take your eyes off the shit waves, you’re covered in it.
Recent helldivers and tarkov controversy be like
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Did you actually read this? I don’t think you did. Either that or you’re being extremely dishonest right now.
Doctorow is briefly mentioned in passing in this blog post. His only involvement was a single tweet that in absolutely no way mentioned or even implied it was about Wu. Despite that she decided to make it about her anyway, and declared that Cory was leading some kind of witch hunt against her based on no evidence other than her own decision that she automatically counted as a “garbage person” in his mind. We have zero evidence that this was actually Cory’s intent, just her assertion that it must have been his meaning.
To take that and turn it into “he was involved in the media harassment and witch hunting of a famous Chinese tech girl Naomi Wu” isa disgustingly disingenuous twisting of the available facts.
It’s not impossible that Cory shares some blame in the events described - no one is perfect, every hero is some kind of bastard, yada yada - but the evidence you’ve offered doesn’t come remotely close to backing up the claims you’re making, and it’s dangerously irresponsible to share such a claim on such a flimsy basis.
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It lets ppl describe late capitalism without using those words or even knowing that’s what they’re describing.
Were stuck Don’t Look Up style in a cycle of trying to find a way to explain and enumerate the things happening around us without pointing to their precursors even when we remember them from our own lives and experiences.
You also made me think of this relevant quote by Lenin:
People always have been the foolish victims of deception and self-deception in politics, and they always will be, until they have learnt to seek out the interests of some class or other behind all moral, religious, political and social phrases, declarations and promises.
This is the correct answer. These “things are getting worse” terms are on the right track, but they don’t describe why things are getting worse.
Class-based systems like feudalism and capitalism have overarching rising and falling phases, and in the late phases, exploitation of our labor increases drastically as the ruling classes fight over a declining surplus. This has rippling effects to every other aspect of society, from how hard we’re forced to work, to the degradation of media, art, politics, etc.
Reddit is inside the walls of enshittification. Reddit kowtows to the techbro narrative. Dissenting voices do appear there as they aren’t a full blown censorship. By and large the reddit userbase has historically been in aligned with big tech.
I’m new here but I’m here precisely because of the enshittification of Reddit.
Honestly though, now that I think about it, a huge chunk of my digital experience has been enshittified. Technology and software that used to wow me still wows me at the surface but frustrates me at my core. Some UI elements and design seem outright hostile.
Maybe I’m just misremembering the past or was more patient back then. Reddit certainly has enshittified though.
I mean at least when it comes to design it was shit in the past cause either it was being done by people who didn’t know much about design or it was something new and people didn’t know what would be a good design for it. Now it’s shit cause making it shit in certain ways let’s companies make more money.
I’m just glad people stopped inserting the word “literally” everywhere. Literally language enshitification.
And that, everybody, is literally not the correct usage of “enshittification”.
Jk, but for real though, it’s not a direct synonym for “degraded” or “gets worse”. It’s more specific than that.
Plus, “literally” now literally has an alternative definition in the dictionary meaning “figuratively”. So y’know, maybe get over the needless linguistic prescriptivism.
The problem is that when a word means one thing and it’s anonym at the same time, it does make it hard to tell which one they’re using. Usually it’s easy to tell, but not always. It’s not about prescriptivism, rather utility. I’m fine with language changing, but I hate losing useful words.
Agreed. Happy for language to change but what word do I use to tell people I’m not exaggerating?
I’m literally a prescriptivist though. But only during reverse office hours.
I see it referenced constantly here, not quite as much on Reddit.
It’s a fairly new term.
Reddit is bots and AI, and hasn’t been trained on new words.
I think it’s just everywhere now. I see it on Tumblr too.
It’s because we were given a name for something that didn’t have a name before but was everywhere.
This is a great thing. With a definition we can understand and discuss the topic.
Gotta love linguistics
Language is magic. Some electrical impulses cause a bunch of electrochemical reactions in a complicated pile of meat to make air vibrate, and at a distance another complicated pile of meat turns the waves into a similar series of electrical impulses.
Of all the unlikely stuff to happen to make use… that’s still just wild…
Because it perfectly embodies one thing the Lemmy hivemind hates the most about how large, for-profit corporations tend to behave
It’s a word that has become popular in general in the last year-ish. But if you hear it more here. It is likely because it is a term used to describe the dynamic that pushed people from Reddit and other platforms to Lemmy. So you will here it more here, since pretty much everyone here has been personally affected by it.
Basically we are a self selecting group of people who chose to leave (or minimize use of) big tech platforms. And are therefore much more likely to be aware of the problems with those platforms.
Not just Lemmy, it is simply a popula word now. But for good reason.
Remember when things were better, before all the enshittification ? Pepperidge Farms remembers
I’m only here because I’m pissed at the enshitification of elsewhere. Of course Imma talk about it.
Because quite literally everything in the world is a victim of it, and we’re basically trying to raise awareness about it so that it doesn’t spread any further.
Not that raising awareness about something on a less than mainstream social platform is gonna do much, but still, at least we can escape the platforms that already suffered from enshittification.
