It’s for my mother, who so far cannot stand LibreOffice.

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    4 months ago

    Why not just change to the other kind of header bar – Notebook or what not.

    I’d say no because at least LibreOffice won’t change for no reason every few years.

    Also, fuck Microsoft & their products & Adobe too. They can get lost and we shouldn’t prop them up as defacto when other options exist.

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    4 months ago

    Onlyoffice is pretty usable, better than libreoffice. The company behind it is Russian, though, so better not use it if you deal with any kind of sensitive information in a western country (that includes stuff like business administration!).

    You can also try the common activation scripts or manually configure vlmcsd. Or just use the free online stuff like Google Docs or Office Online.

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        The company is Latvian, but the Latvian company used to be owned by a Russian company. Right now, the company is owned by a British she’ll company, owned by a Singaporean holding. Fort a short while, the British company was owned by someone acting as a corporate advisor in Uzbekistan.

        Legally speaking, they’re not Russian, but I find it hard to believe they’ve actually severed ties. I believe they changed their business structure to avoid EU sanctions. This could just be your basic corporate tax evasion as well, but i haven’t seen a tax evasion scheme like this in open source software before.

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    4 months ago

    This really depends on what she’s using it for. If she’s going to use it for anything business related, she needs a legal copy. That includes her sitting down to write the next great American novel or Sookie Stackhouse series. If she’s just needs to open recipes someone else sends her, not a problem at all.

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    4 months ago

    @Reverendender

    OnlyOffice Desktop Editors…

    Simpler interface but lacking more advanced features of MS Office or Libre. It has the features 90% of users actually use though.

    Nearly perfect DOCX formatting compatibility. The only thing I have ever noticed when collaborating with Word users is the bullet symbols on list items may be different on my end.

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      4 months ago

      Agreed. I really tried to like Libre/OpenOffice over the years but it never felt right. OnlyOffice really hits the spot for me.

      I don’t use Windows much any more but I was happy with the discounted student version of Office 2016, afaik the last perpetual license.

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        4 months ago

        Onlyoffice sucks very bad with macros in my experience, lacks some advanced functions, and infuriatingly doesn’t seem to have options search, but other than that it’s fantastic, very intuitive, ergonomic and sleek option.

        My own daily driver.

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          4 months ago

          If I’m doing anything substantial, calculation-wise, I use openpyxl.

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              You might also find the Python library pandas useful. Its “DataFrames” can mirror your excel data 1:1 and you have convenience methods like to_excel(). Easy to combine with numpy for performant matrix math.

              XLSX just becomes a container for storing/sharing your data, and while Python is used for analysis. I would use matplotlib for plotting rather than embedding in the sheet.

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    4 months ago

    i came across a guide on rentry that said how to permanently activate office 365 downloading from official microsoft servers

    don’t have the link

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    4 months ago

    Download office from massgrave.dev and activate with the power shell activator. Permanent activation as easy as it gets.

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        There was an article that caught Microsoft’s own IT support use this script to activate a customer’s computer so I guess Microsoft approves of it.

        Edit: sauce

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      yea can barely call it ‘effort’ more like accidentally tripped, pressed enter and now office 365 is installed ;D

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      There is some functionality not available through the web apps. If you work in a corporate setting, the odds are really good that the web apps won’t be adequate for you.

      One example that comes to mind is not me of our clients that has us file a report once per quarter. The report is an Excel spreadsheet that can be filled but not edited. The submission demands that the file be then password edit protected and uploaded along with the password. You cannot secure files that way via the web app. We literally keep a Windows VM with the a copy of the desktop office suite, just for this client’s quarterly form.

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    key resellers have office 2021 pro plus (the non subscription one) for $30.00ish (earlier versions are even cheaper) and that is what I recommend if you absolutely have to get office.

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      Considering the grey market is filled with dodgy keys, it’d be better to just pirate, especially when there are easy and safe ways to do it like with MAS

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          Good resellers do, but I think my point still stands - why risk any of that when Microsoft doesn’t get your money either way?
          MAS/Massgrave works effectively, is open source, is well-documented, and literally free.

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      4 months ago

      imho between the two options, the more ethical is to pirate rather than supporting a shady key reseller. Anyway microsoft gets the exact same amount of money either if you purchase a stolen key from msdn or you install a pirated copy activated via mas

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    4 months ago

    At this point I think it’s more beneficial for you to move to using LibreOffice. It’s a better to spend your time getting used to that, instead of trying to obtain MS Office.

    I’m not saying that LibreOffice is as good, but it’s good enough.