• OpenStars@discuss.online
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    5 months ago

    As I mentioned in another reply in this chain, Kurzesagt is among the sources that are attempting to inform people about the effects of climate change. They are based in Germany iirc.

    In the USA, the definition of “liberal”, like “conservative”, has changed greatly over the years, skewing ever more towards the latter, but it was not always that way. Also, I am making a distinction between Democrat politics vs. liberal philosophy.

    You cannot compromise with the capitalist class that is suffocating the planet.

    This is something that I do not understand: are you advocating for a radical overthrow of the entire government, in the very next USA presidential election in the coming months? Or are you advocating for a protest vote for like an independent, exactly like what happened with Clinton, before which more than anything else is what put Trump in office then? If not, it seems to follow by your definition that we would be “compromising” to vote for Biden, who “ha(s) not actually cared much at all about climate change. Not enough to do the changes required to see it mitigated.”

    So we either compromise or we… do what? It reads to me like childish “tough talk”. Maybe that’s not what you meant, hence getting back to how I do not understand it. And at a bare minimum, it suffers from being a statement of what to not do, yet never states what should be done in its place. Therefore, it seems likely to result in helping Trump win again.

    Which seems to me to not be ideal either?

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      5 months ago

      I am advocating for our survival. I don’t think we make it out of this on the current trajectory. We need something new, radical, and different, something actually willing to tackle the climate crisis to the extent that it needs. I don’t think that’s a crazy thought.

      We aren’t gonna get out of this by sticking our head in the sand and I feel like that’s what a lot of the techno optimists are doing. I actually find Kurzgesagt’s content incredibly dangerous for this reason.

      Fear is an incredible motivator and we are placating the masses right now, acting like the capitalists of the world are gonna be our saviors. Related to this thought, I always find it rich how everyone wants to look to the stars as if we are going to escape this planet, and that will be the solution, as if the more logical conclusion is not just to sustainably live in the planet we already have that we are perfectly adapted for. Something that their channel seems to advocate for is just blowing off into space and leaving it all behind.