• aulin@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    References for renting? What sort of dystopia is that? I’ve never heard of that concept, luckily.

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        7 months ago

        One apartment I lived in was rented out by a private landlord, and there we had the option to write a personal letter/application which would allow us to skip the queue if we matched what they were looking for. We had just become a family of three and they wanted more families with children so we were approved. That was completely voluntary though. In honesty, I think it’s kind of weird that we could jump the queue but we were no longer allowed to live in my student apartment so we jumped on it.

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          7 months ago

          That was completely voluntary though

          The problem with power imbalances is that they allow enforcing “completely voluntary” practices.

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            7 months ago

            I know. That’s why I said it’s a bit weird that we could skip the queue. On the other hand, the fact that decades long queue times are necessary instead of more, affordable housing being built is also a problem.

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        7 months ago

        not a thing i’ve ever heard of in sweden, either apartments are just expensive or you need to sign up for a waiting list and maintain your spot for like 7 years until you have the queue points needed for the apartment you want to rent

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            7 months ago

            it’s usually not that extreme, but that’s how it is in the large cities.

            More normal for an average city is probably like 3 years waiting, you’re expected to sign up before you have any intentions of moving out from your parents.

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          7 months ago

          doesnt croatia have a really low percentage of people who live in rent (as opposed to owing the property or living with relatives eho own it)

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      7 months ago

      I’m having to do that now. Three years prior renting needs to be accounted for. I left on very bad terms with my previous landlord but I had to give the information over because it showed up on my history check and they refused to let my application be complete without it. So we’ll see wtf is gonna happen…

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        7 months ago

        I had a disagreement with my previous landlord. He included power in the rent (not uncommon here) and I have a home lab.

        He was not happy with the electrical bill and accused me of mining Bitcoin.

        Sir, this hardware is from 2010, and couldn’t possibly mine a single Bitcoin in the time it has remaining to run before it dies.

        He threatened to evict me, I took his eviction threat documentation to a lawyer who basically told me that “this is not sufficient grounds to evict” (more or less he just laughed at how dumb it was), and I promptly ignored it. Moved out when my lease was up. There were a ton of other problems I won’t get into. When he showed it to new potential renters some showed up before the agent who was showing the place and we gave them a warning about the landlord. I’m sure someone rented it eventually, but hopefully we saved a couple of people from going through all that.

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          7 months ago

          I actually like the idea of landlords covering electricity or at least a portion of it. It incentives them to install things like heat pumps which have a high up front cost but long term savings. If they aren’t sweating the long term loss then why would they upgrade?

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            7 months ago

            Most places here pay for heating, not cooling. Heating is usually natural gas or similar, cooling by AC is up to the tenant, and there’s usually a premium in the summer paid to run AC when electricity is included.

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        7 months ago

        That’s sad. There could be so many reasons for disagreements. As long as you paid you shouldn’t be forced to do this. Best of luck.

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          7 months ago

          Disagreement is a light way of putting it. 😅

          It went full-on, lawyers-involved horseshit from her freaking out about trivial shit. So it’s a guarantee that her response to any inquiry will be negative. Fun!

          Thanks for the kind words, I should find out later today whether she’s blocked me from getting a place.

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      7 months ago

      It’s common in Germany to get a “reference” from your current landlord that basically just says “paid rent on time and didn’t set anything on fire”.

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        7 months ago

        It is? I’m german and I’ve rented my entire life and never got anything like it nor needed anything like it to rent.

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        7 months ago

        Huh. Here we have registries for people who habitually don’t pay on time, with a cooldown once they’re caught up. If you’re not in the registry it’s assumed that you’re good.

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          7 months ago

          Don’t worry, we have that registry in Germany as well. And you have to pay to get your own data from them (although a GDPR request works once a year)