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    With all that said, Cloudflare has shown that they cannot be relied upon. No business can work with a supplier that will just suddenly cut you off without there being some clear breach of contract and the possibility to clear things up.

    The behavior from Cloudflare shown here is what you expect from some shady Russian “cheapo SaaS for you!”-provider.

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      6 months ago

      without there being some clear breach of contract and the possibility to clear things up.

      Sounds like that’s exactly what happened?

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        What part of their existing plan were they in breach of? And why was there no description of what difference in cost there would be for different usage once they were told of the plan Cloudflare considered right for them?

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          This is one side of the story. It’s entirely possible CF did provide those details

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      When you don’t play by their rules and freeload the shit out of their plan and thus violate their terms of service… yeah Termination happens, tough love.

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        I think there would be more sympathy if Cloudflare pointed to a specific limit breached and proposed ways to get into compliance at their current price plan.

        “Service XYZ is now consuming 500% of expected quota. Shut it down or we need to get you on a bigger plan.” is actionable and meaningful, and feels a little less like a shakedown.

        I’m sick of “unlimited” services that really mean “there’s a limit but we aren’t going to say what it is.” By that standard, freaking mobile telecoms are far more transparent and good-faith players!

        Perhaps this also represents a failing in Cloudflare’s product matrix. Everyone loves the “contact sales for a bespoke enterprise plan” model, but you should be creating a clear road to it, and faux-unlimited isn’t it. Not everyone needs $random_enterprise_feature, so there’s value in a disclosed quota and pay-as-you-scale approach: the customer should be eager to reach out to your sales team because the enterprise plan should offer better value than off-the-rack options at high scale.

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          Considering the way they presented what was obviously them trying to skirt the rules, it isn’t hard to believe that CF did provide that info, and it just wasn’t presented in this writeup.

          Not that I have any love for CF, just saying this is a case of no one being trustworthy.

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          I agree, there simply isnt “unlimited” services. Also I don’t see any mention of unlimited anything on CloudFlares tiered plans, maybe I’m blind.

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            They don’t say unlimited, but they also won’t say the limit of their reverse proxy service. It’s intentionally vague.

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      No business can work with a supplier that will just suddenly cut you off without there being some clear breach of contract and the possibility to clear things up.

      I think they’re leaving out that they are breaching contract. Someone commented on their article calling them out for essentially getting CF’s IPs blacklisted. If this casino would switch to Enterprise then they would have to bring their own ips and it wouldn’t affect CF (since CF’s ips are shared across all customers)