• scbasteve7@lemm.ee
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      Just from what I found, swamps are wetlands with woody vegetation being what DOMINATLY inhibits it. So if it’s mixed, find out what there is more of. If it’s 50/50, I guess the universe collapses.

      And a wetland with a neutral ph is just called a neutral wetland.

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    5 months ago

    i love when scientists take a swamp of arbitrary language terms and decide to impose some arbitrary specific meanings on them for purposes of their specific discipline and then convince people who don’t really get how language works (i.e. most people) that the definitions are authoritative. it’s fun to watch the cognitive dissonance when this collides with actual usage and people get all angry and righteous.

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    I never knew the fen/bog part! The only reason I knew swamps from marshes is from labeling them in OpenStreetMap

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      6 months ago

      I think this is more to do with scientists’ definitions than English in general. See also: what is and isn’t a nut, what is and isn’t a vegetable, is there such thing as a fish.

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        That’s because the old Something Awful forums ruined fantasy books back for me in the early 2000’s when the big series was ASOIAF. Going from GRRM to Sanderson, Hobbs, Abercrombie etc… just doesn’t hit the same. It’s like going from crack to whippets.

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      5 months ago

      Fen the wetland type or fen the plural of (sci fi/fantasy) fan? Or had you heard of neither?

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        5 months ago

        Sounds like it could be the name of a Hobbit. But no, never heard the word used before. I’m from Georgia and live in Virginia. Never been to a mountain wetland or to middle earth

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          I think I have only heard the term in:

          • The plural of fan: sci fi stories set in the distant future of 1990, also in early internet fandom
          • The wetland: stories from the UK, embedded in British place names, having a British parent

          I wonder what sort of wetland my local one is, and the nearby swampy grasslands. Both are watered by rain or snowmelt. Both are marked as wetlands on maps

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    6 months ago

    So, it would be a swampy bog and a marshy fen, but not a boggy swamp or a fenny marsh?

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    6 months ago

    This is one of my pet trivias :) hard to remember the pH for bogs and fens though. It has something to do with rain vs groundwater.