Just because you support a cause doesn’t mean you need to support every attention seeking brainrot idiot that uses the cause as an excuse to flaunt their stupidity.
These people are not helping the environment, they’re playing a silly game for attention without caring about the consequences.
they’re playing a silly game for attention without caring about the consequences
They’re playing a silly but very serious game for attention, the same silly game that politicians and corporate PR departments play. And they seem to care a very great deal about the consequences.
They are rocks my friend. Rocks. Birds shit on them daily and have for thoudands of years. But go ahead and be mad about the rocks getting cornflower on them. Very good little reactionary Brit.
Ever play a Civilization game where Stone Henge ends up underwater because of the sea rising? Yeah. Thats all our art. All our society.
One thousand shits on Mona Lisa for one saved human life. But we will choose to protect the symbols of capital and status quo.
Enjoying the Gulf Stream collapsing further this summer?
I’m generally supportive of any and all forms of non-violent protest (by which I mean not harming human life), including these, but let’s not pretend the choice is between “standing around with placards” and “vandalise random artwork & monuments”. Blockading ports exporting coal is an excellent direct protest, or vandalising actual fossil fuel companies’ property in such a way that disrupts their ability to do business. Heck, even the classic “block roads in peak hour” is better than this (just for the love of the gods, don’t disrupt passenger trains or busways).
Don’t get me wrong, this is still ok, and it’s better than nothing at all, but there are more effective ways to protest.
False choice. Those aren’t the only options. We’re in a election season. Get out there and help convince the public to vote for people who will actually make a difference.
Making noise and demanding things is what children do.
One could argue that Stonehenge is an icon of humanity’s pre-industrial, sustainable origins and as such acts as a reminder of the future that humanity will face after the ecological and civilisational collapse currently underway as a direct result of oil production. And hence Stonehenge is something to do with oil production.
Let’s be real here. What could climate protesters do that wouldn’t get them bad attention? History has shown: Nothing. There is nothing they could do that wouldn’t get them bad attention. In Germany, they even got cussed out for blocking private jets.
Face it: The powerful do not fear retaliation from the masses if they vilify climate protesters. The protesterscannot win the PR battle. So all they have left is publicity stunts. And as far as publicity stunts go, plastering stones with water-soluble paint is about as tame as it gets.
Were I the “protest type”, I’d be getting awfully creative with what can be done to the infrastructure of the things I was protesting. Big Oil? Would be a shame if the refineries were to suffer malfunctions… or the trucks/ships to suffer constant breakdowns…
But yeah, instead let’s go fuck with something that has no relation and only serves to piss people off - but not in the way you want them pissed off.
Would be a shame if the refineries were to suffer malfunctions… or the trucks/ships to suffer constant breakdowns…
I am surprised that people haven’t taken How to Blow Up a Pipeline (book or film) as more of a guide. I presume, as the climate apocalypse intensifies, protestors might escalate.
Do you know how I would go about buying and filling a muck spreader.
You can hire one from any number of places, like here. I quite like the side discharge spreader for drive-bys as long as you knew the range.
To fill it try a pig farmer as they usually have large ponds of the stuff they want rid of - chicken shit or bull shit are also available for symbolic reasons.
Plus Rishi Sunaks home address would be a totally unrelated useful fact to share.
His home has already been vandalised as I assume the address is in the electoral register. I was quite surprised they got through security and I assume it’s been tightened up since. Driving a large farm vehicle at the house seems quite a good way to get shot.
Any publicity is good publicity, it’s paint, it can be cleaned up. But drilling for fossil fuels, burning shit to get energy, etc. That will leave a mark on the planet for generations, it might even kill us in the long enough run.
Because defacing an ancient site has a clear connection to the environment… bunch of fucking self-centered attention-whores.
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Just because you support a cause doesn’t mean you need to support every attention seeking brainrot idiot that uses the cause as an excuse to flaunt their stupidity.
These people are not helping the environment, they’re playing a silly game for attention without caring about the consequences.
They’re playing a silly but very serious game for attention, the same silly game that politicians and corporate PR departments play. And they seem to care a very great deal about the consequences.
They are rocks my friend. Rocks. Birds shit on them daily and have for thoudands of years. But go ahead and be mad about the rocks getting cornflower on them. Very good little reactionary Brit.
Ever play a Civilization game where Stone Henge ends up underwater because of the sea rising? Yeah. Thats all our art. All our society.
One thousand shits on Mona Lisa for one saved human life. But we will choose to protect the symbols of capital and status quo.
Enjoying the Gulf Stream collapsing further this summer?
It’s either this or ineffectual protests that get swept under the rug and ignored. You should be happy that their protest is purely cosmetic too.
These dang protesters and their… *flips script* attention seeking! Can’t they just do nothin like the rest of us?
I’m generally supportive of any and all forms of non-violent protest (by which I mean not harming human life), including these, but let’s not pretend the choice is between “standing around with placards” and “vandalise random artwork & monuments”. Blockading ports exporting coal is an excellent direct protest, or vandalising actual fossil fuel companies’ property in such a way that disrupts their ability to do business. Heck, even the classic “block roads in peak hour” is better than this (just for the love of the gods, don’t disrupt passenger trains or busways).
Don’t get me wrong, this is still ok, and it’s better than nothing at all, but there are more effective ways to protest.
False choice. Those aren’t the only options. We’re in a election season. Get out there and help convince the public to vote for people who will actually make a difference.
Making noise and demanding things is what children do.
Defacing random things that don’t have any connect at all to what you’re protesting only makes you look bad.
Yeah, it got attention. Bad attention.
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What would you have them deface?
Oh I don’t know… Something that has anything to do with oil production
One could argue that Stonehenge is an icon of humanity’s pre-industrial, sustainable origins and as such acts as a reminder of the future that humanity will face after the ecological and civilisational collapse currently underway as a direct result of oil production. And hence Stonehenge is something to do with oil production.
I would argue you’re grasping at straws.
Let’s be real here. What could climate protesters do that wouldn’t get them bad attention? History has shown: Nothing. There is nothing they could do that wouldn’t get them bad attention. In Germany, they even got cussed out for blocking private jets.
Face it: The powerful do not fear retaliation from the masses if they vilify climate protesters. The protesterscannot win the PR battle. So all they have left is publicity stunts. And as far as publicity stunts go, plastering stones with water-soluble paint is about as tame as it gets.
Some will likely turn towards eco terrorism within the next years of continued inaction.
Were I the “protest type”, I’d be getting awfully creative with what can be done to the infrastructure of the things I was protesting. Big Oil? Would be a shame if the refineries were to suffer malfunctions… or the trucks/ships to suffer constant breakdowns…
But yeah, instead let’s go fuck with something that has no relation and only serves to piss people off - but not in the way you want them pissed off.
sounds like “how to get prescribed as a terrorist organisation 101”
Ah yes, let’s commit industrial sabotage. That’ll go swimmingly!
I am surprised that people haven’t taken How to Blow Up a Pipeline (book or film) as more of a guide. I presume, as the climate apocalypse intensifies, protestors might escalate.
But why Stonehenge? Why not oil company buildings? I believe oil companies generally have buildings. Large buildings. With their names on them.
Because when a child wants the attention that your not giving, it shits on your kitchen floor so that you have to pay attention.
Because that doesn’t make the headlines.
Maybe we need to come up with a way to deface oil company buildings that does make headlines
Do what the French farmers do - back a muck-spreader up to the main doors and turn it on.
Out of interest. As I’m not a farmer. Do you know how I would go about buying and filling a muck spreader.
Plus Rishi Sunaks home address would be a totally unrelated useful fact to share.
You can hire one from any number of places, like here. I quite like the side discharge spreader for drive-bys as long as you knew the range.
To fill it try a pig farmer as they usually have large ponds of the stuff they want rid of - chicken shit or bull shit are also available for symbolic reasons.
His home has already been vandalised as I assume the address is in the electoral register. I was quite surprised they got through security and I assume it’s been tightened up since. Driving a large farm vehicle at the house seems quite a good way to get shot.
Just Stop Oil said the orange powder paint was cornflour and it would “wash away with rain”.
I wonder how many of your strong opinions are based on things that you don’t even bother to investigate beyond your first impression.
Any publicity is good publicity, it’s paint, it can be cleaned up. But drilling for fossil fuels, burning shit to get energy, etc. That will leave a mark on the planet for generations, it might even kill us in the long enough run.