The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.
Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they’ll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.
You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don’t want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue
Workshop this with me, passporn or pornport? Porn pass?
passporn has a nice ring to it. wank wallet also comes to mind.
Passporn sounds great, pornport just sounds like where someone goes to acquire porn (that series of tubes thing, w/e that is), but pornpass sounds the most likely to be adopted by the marketing department.
Iirc Spain is one of those countries that makes you install a cert to use some of their government services, which they can then use to MITM all your https connections
Yeah this is not true. First the cert is only used on some government sites, no mitm anywhere. Also if you don’t like the cert there are other ways to authenticate yourself, for example using your Id on a electronic reader or normal auth with user name pass and 2fa.
remind me never to go to Spain
This is a privacy issue but it’s a much much much less of a privacy issue than what the EU wants to do with that mandatory internet ID thing. This Spanish concept shows that you don’t need complete mass surveillance like other governments try to convince everyone in.
Spain is officially hoping that their system will serve as a model for the rest of Europe, and then the rest of the world, so that everyone can work together to enforce the rules. Otherwise their citizens might just evade it by, for example, going to web sites that are not in Spain.
That is why they give it such a grand name as “digital wallet.” It’s meant to become the basis for that European digital id you refer to, and used for much more than is happening with this initial trial balloon.
so that everyone can work together to enforce the rules.
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Politicians keep trying to helicopter parent the entire populations of countries.
Making sure your kids don’t go places online before they should, and have conversations with them about it once they reach an age where it happening is inevitable, is something every, single, parent, should do.
Not the fucking state.
And this has to be one the weirdest implementations of porn surveillance I’ve ever seen.
In my experience most parents are to lazy to keep up with setting appropriate restrictions for kids and like some parents, they expect someone else to raise and take care of their children.
Folks, this is not about the porn.
So what? I’ve had the exact same experience.
It’s not a reason for the state to overstep into ALL our lives. In fact, the state stepping in is giving such parents yet more excuses to put even less effort into shaping the adults that their children will become.
That’s their problem. I’ll handle my kids, fuck the government and fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.
…fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.
But that’s how the problem started in the first place!
Exactly! Government granted ‘porn credits’ sounds absolutly insane as a serious idea…
Porn “Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits” is one wild sentence.
A porn “enthusiast”, requesting the government for porn credits, to watch porn? What?
tfw no porn credits
I hate when you’re about to bust and run out of credits. Like, just take the ruined O or power on into the “insert permission slip reference” screen?
drink verification cansqueeze verification dong
Porn passport = Wanking license
Oi mate! Wankin loicense! Give it here. Noi!
Also known as “pajaporte” in Spanish (paja = wank)
Esa no me la esperaba XDDD
Enthusiasm is funny ha
Instead of educating kids, it’s much easier to… not, and invade their privacy instead.
…invade everyone’s privacy instead.
Keep people safe … by encasing them in packing foam and feeding them through IV tubes!
Everyone knows freedom is anti safety. And safety’s number 1!
“Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.”
Well that’s a relief. For a minute there, I was worried.
Back in my day, extra credit had to be earned.
I’m already chafed.
They made this to send people from legal sites to illegal sites.
People live in Spain?
Also I’m just imagining the look on on the store clerks face when that one person comes in to buy porn credits for the 5th time that day.
What gets me about this is that, while it would still be bad, they could have mostly avoided the privacy nightmare here with some kind of Zero Knowledge Proof scheme, but the tracking is obviously part of the point.
You think govt officials can ingest, articulate, or even fathom what ZKrollups are?
We have the wrong people in govt unfortunately. Its mostly lawyers.
But yea, some sort of ZK schema would be interesting. Still dislike the porn credits tho.
I’m not sure why this is the focus rather than legislating that router/access point manufacturers create robust and simple to use parental controls and then running public service campaigns that educate parents on how to use them.
Not that I really care that much since I don’t watch porn. I just don’t think putting adult content behind a verification system that applies to everyone makes sense when the idea is to prevent kids, who generally have at least one person who controls the networking equipment and should be monitoring their devices/activity, from seeing it.
Also it is not like the porn websites are hard to block really. They make it pretty easy.
The fact that they don’t go for any of the many ways to manage access to porn that are more effective and less invasive of privacy suggests that the point is, as always, surveillance and not protecting children from porn.
Sucks to live in Spain, I guess. The rest of us get spied on just fine without it being nearly as annoying. /s
The guy who’s likely to become Canada’s next PM wants to do this too.
Yo what the fuck guys can you not
Wow good job Spain.
I guess this works because email doesn’t exist.
I guess this works because file sharing applications and websites don’t exist.
I guess this works because VPN’s free and paid don’t exist.
I guess this works because Tor, i2p, Freenet, and Yggdrasil don’t exist.
I guess this works because torrenting doesn’t exist.
I guess this works because black markets don’t exist.
I guess this works because chat applications don’t exist.
To be a fly on the wall of these government meetings where they talk about this shit would surely be the funniest fucking thing in the world.
You are right, it’s really stupid.
But it’s also stupid not to consider, that it’s not the real reason they made this in the first place.
They want to track you, and porn is the first excuse. If this is a success you might need this passport for alot of other things.
Thank you for contributing!
You’ve used the last of your political observation credits for the month. If you’d like to request more, please visit yourcountry.gov citizen portal and fill out the application. Your wait time will be 3-5 business days. We apologize for the wait but we are currently receiving a high volume of applications.
-govbot
I want to be at the meeting a year from now where they realize only two people have ever signed up ‘Yay we fixed porn!’
Buy who am I kidding they brought VPN shares before this was introduced
Bought VPN shares and water shipping company shares because they know wasting money on this shit instead of on public infrastructure to provide more reliable clean water is only good for commercial interests.
and probably have some of the most depraved porn habits imaginable
Surely this will work.
