• my_hat_stinks@programming.dev
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    2 months ago

    Utter nonsense. Your argument is that because you can imagine a god and spread the idea they are real. The logical conclusion there is that anything you can imagine is equally real. Bigfoot really is wandering around a forest, spaghetti absolutely does grow in trees, and the moon landing was definitely on a sound stage (but they also really landed on the moon because I can picture that too).

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      2 months ago

      Bigfoot doesn’t live in the woods. He lives in people’s heads. That’s where all memes, including the gods, live. In people’s heads.

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        2 months ago

        So then what’s the difference between “the gods” and something purely fictional, in your view? Because if there is none than this whole thing seems like just an exercise in surface-level semantics.

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          2 months ago

          The gods are mythical, whereas Frodo Baggins is fictional. People believe in myths. Though of course it’s a fuzzy boundary. You can arrange various characters on a spectrum from myth to fiction. For example, Zeus is pure myth, Lucifer is an originally fictional character that has almost entirely become mythical, Achilles is sort of directly in the middle, Sherlock Holmes is a highly mythologised fictional character, Gandalf is a fictionalised adaptation of a myth, and Jake Sully is pure fiction because nobody gives a shit about him.

          Also *You

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            2 months ago

            Ah, so the difference is the weight that people assign the idea.

            Do the gods exist for an atheist who contends that all of the things you called “mythical” are in fact purely “fictional”? Or does a lack of belief among some individuals not matter because the gods are a social construct?

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Your argument is that because you can imagine a god and spread the idea they are real.

      You could say the same of Mickey Mouse or the Philly Fanatic. Which is, in fairness, where this is ultimately going.

      A god as a timeless enlightened super-being might not be real. But a god as an ideological mascot or cultural touchstone is.