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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
Japan supermarket chain uses AI to gauge staff smiles, speech tones in quality service push (South China Morning Post).
Called “Mr Smile”, it was developed by the Japanese technology company InstaVR and is said to be able to accurately rate a shop assistant’s service attitude.
It has also been designed with “game” elements that invite staff to improve their attitude by challenging their scores.
The company said its goal was to “standardise staff members’ smiles and satisfy customers to the maximum”.
Thanks I hate it
Press release here: https://www.aeonretail.jp/pdf/240701R_1.pdf or here: https://www.instavr.co.jp/news/aeon-retail-smile-2024-07-01/ (Lots of big words so I didn’t try to read it)
InstaVR’s English website here: https://www.instavr.co/
Eurgh!
standardise staff members’ smiles
Completely normal and chill thing to want
Previous workplace merged with a US company that among other things offered “sentiment analysis” for call centers - the software was supposed to detect if someone was upset or irate. Could be used to help employees deal with irate customers, but could also detect if an employee was rude or stressed. Same software could be used to ensure employees used certain stock phrases like “welcome to InitTech, how may I help you?”
Point is, tech has been used to enforce conformity since well forever.
What if instead of making robots better we just made interacting with a real person indistinguishable by demanding they conform to arbitrary metrics that the brain-slugs that control our minds think look like genuine human warmth and kindness?
@cstross
Looks like someone took the wrong lesson from Quantum of Nightmares!
Edit: Enjoyed the book, btw. Felt weird about shopping for groceries for most of a year afterward. A++
after all this time, TIL that Roko pronounces his name “Rocko” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwJDnej7pg
it’s amazing how he continues to provide fresh reasons to want to boop him on the nose
man, all these old transhumanist videos https://www.youtube.com/@Transentience/videos you could waste hours of your life on old and pointless bs
“Genes vs Memes”
okay, I checked, it’s after midday. definitely okay to start drinking.
I’m pretty sure you’re only allowed to have that discussion if you’re a Metal Gear villain. Which despite his best efforts Roko does not have enough dramatic presence or raw drip for.
drip vs drool
Quick, someone file the copyright for “Roko’s Postmodern Life”
I’m not a native english speaker, how else was he supposed to pronounce it?
I think the most common would be “roh-koh”, I could also see a front-o accentuated form being used
that flat “rocko” as in the vid was one I wouldn’t have thought to hear
That just sounds incredibly British to me.
When I clicked the video I fully expected Rocko with a c to mean Rosko.
One step closer to Doctor Rockso the clown.
https://bsky.app/profile/jonpennington.bsky.social/post/3kxqkmezcwe2o
I went to college with him. Yarvin is curdled nerd rage personified. He also lies about his age. He’s older than me & claims a birth date that would make him younger than me.
I was on a Quiz Bowl team with him & whenever he would buzz in for an answer, he would jerk his body spasmodically, which the other people on the team called “Yarvinating.”
He’s the kind of player that other Quiz Bowl players hate, known in the subculture as a “pickoff lord.” That is to say, he’s the kind of guy who would pad his stats by diving in to buzz on easy questions, make wild guesses on intros so he could get more points than teammates, etc.
Hand to God. If anybody disputes me, I’ve got at least one other person who would remember the “Yarvinating” anecdote. I’ve got legit Quiz Bowl cred. I used to play against Ken Jennings before he was even a Jeopardy! contestant, let alone host.
I connected on Facebook with a former classmate, somebody else from that team who once appeared in a College Jeopardy! tournament. We’re both kind of just gobsmacked that we were there for somebody else’s Lex Luthor origin story.
Another bit of tea… He lies about his age. He was an upperclassman at Brown when I was a freshman & he claims to be younger than me.
see also https://www.qbwiki.com/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin
Yarvin played on the College Bowl-only team for Brown from 1989 to 1992. In 2021 he published a poem[2] stating that “No one can fucking touch me / In College Bowl.” Brown failed to advance out of the Region 1 tournament for all four years of Yarvin’s participation, making his lifetime record at intercollegiate tournaments 0-4 and demonstrating that, at a minimum, the Brandeis, MIT, and Williams teams were capable of “touching” his performance.
A funny coincidence: https://gameshows.fandom.com/wiki/Curtis_Warren Another guy named Curtis that buzzes in early at game shows. And he’s from CATHEDRAL City. It’s all connected
He also lies about his age.
I also knew somebody who did that, but it was done as a joke, he obv picked an age much much younger and everybody new he was older, it was just a funny joke. (With a small layer of disliking getting older, which is understandable) From the way this is written, it seems to me this isn’t like that at all.
I like answering ludicrously old whenever this stupid shit comes up
or picking timestamps that make devs wonder whether they had a value handling bug (such as 1/1/1970, the asp.net default 0, etc ec)
Just be careful you never pick very young. iirc Twitter permbans you if you ever pick a date which means you were under 13 when you registered.
I’ve only been on the internet a year, that mistake will happen quite soon ;)
I’m 12 years old and what is this?
Don’t worry if you get banned just tell them you were banned for expressing your conservative ideas.
I’d never looked into how old the clown is, but
He also lies about his age. He’s older than me & claims a birth date that would make him younger than me.
wait what? what does he claim? is the indicated year on wikipedia accurate? why the hell?
wikipedia date is 25 June 1973, presumably that’s the false one
huh, just showed year here. did you get that from talk?
Have not read it yet, but seems relevant to our collective interests. NSFW due to NASB. Accelerationism, amphetamine philosophy, and the Death Trip. (A long post about Nick Land).
Great article. It’s always fun to read about smart people lionizing a terrible person like Aleister Crowley and inevitably going insane (or dead, in Jack Parson’s case).
The article never discussed the topic directly, but for others interested in esoterica would probably enjoy reading about the concept of egregores.
terrible person like Aleister Crowley
Wait, why is Crowley terrible? Wasn’t he basically an overly enthusiastic cosplayer that did all the drugs and all the sex? So basically an occult hippy? Am I just unaware of him abusing people or some other dark shit?
he was an abusive gobshite, including physically abusive.
Claim to fame! Aleister Crowley was born a short walk from the house where I grew up, although then he was plain old Edward Crowley. My home town isn’t that keen to be associated with him, largely because of the above - at a superficial level he was a harmless crank, a rich kid who decided to start his own religion and dress up in robes, but once you dig down into the history he was a pretty unpleasant, exploitative man - a classic cult leader.
I mean, I really don’t think you can have a sex cult without at the very least some abuse. It’s also good practice to treat occultism as weirdo fascism.
It’s also good practice to treat occultism as weirdo fascism.
the coincidence happening over and over is a tad unfortunate
I read his Wikipedia recently and he just seemed like a user who was careless with the people in his life. His philosophy was “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law”, which is obviously open to abuse and exploitation.
Ye that’s why I’m asking, cause even RationalWiki doesn’t have a chapter on abuse or anything.
Here are some bits from Wikipedia:
He offered a libertine education for the children, allowing them to play all day and witness acts of sex magic. He occasionally travelled to Palermo to visit rent boys and buy supplies, including drugs; his heroin addiction came to dominate his life, and cocaine began to erode his nasal cavity. There was no cleaning rota, and wild dogs and cats wandered throughout the building, which soon became unsanitary. Poupée died in October 1920, and Ninette gave birth to a daughter, Astarte Lulu Panthea, soon afterwards.
New followers continued to arrive at the Abbey to be taught by Crowley. Among them was film star Jane Wolfe, who arrived in July 1920, where she was initiated into the A∴A∴ and became Crowley’s secretary. Another was Cecil Frederick Russell, who often argued with Crowley, disliking the same-sex sexual magic that he was required to perform, and left after a year.
Subsequently, a young Thelemite named Raoul Loveday moved to the Abbey with his wife Betty May; while Loveday was devoted to Crowley, May detested him and life at the commune. She later said that Loveday was made to drink the blood of a sacrificed cat, and that they were required to cut themselves with razors every time they used the pronoun “I”. Loveday drank from a local polluted stream, soon developing a liver infection resulting in his death in February 1923.
Employing a local boy, Mohammad ben Brahim, as his servant, Crowley went with him on a retreat to Nefta, where they performed sex magic together.
Crowley was intrigued by the rise of Nazism in Germany, and influenced by his friend Martha Küntzel believed that Adolf Hitler might convert to Thelema; when the Nazis abolished the German O.T.O. and imprisoned Germer, who fled to the US, Crowley then lambasted Hitler as a black magician.
Pasi described Crowley’s fascination with the extreme ideologies of Nazism and Marxism–Leninism, which aimed to violently overturn society: “What Crowley liked about Nazism and communism, or at least what made him curious about them, was the anti-Christian position and the revolutionary and socially subversive implications of these two movements. In their subversive powers, he saw the possibility of an annihilation of old religious traditions, and the creation of a void that Thelema, subsequently, would be able to fill.” Crowley described democracy as an “imbecile and nauseating cult of weakness”, and commented that The Book of the Law proclaimed that “there is the master and there is the slave; the noble and the serf; the ‘lone wolf’ and the herd”.
It’s always the same boring old squalid shit with these basic nietzschean bitches. Not many people I have less respect for.
you know, I’d wondered previously about the higher-than-average divinity-and-spirits obsession among TPOT. between some of the history of land/ccru there, the other shit previously observed in the stubsack (iirc?) about rightoids and aliens/fairies (and ofc the nazi history of occultism)… what a fucking faith to make
Truly the weirdest consequence of crank magnetism and conspiracy syncretism is the kinds of bedfellows you find. UFO cults align with Christian dominionists because the aliens are actually demons (or vice versa - which direction isn’t important).
It feels like modern fascism is less driven by orthodoxy (right belief) than they are by orthopraxy (right action) to the degree that as long as they aren’t actually in power anyone who hates on the right people and rejects the right facts can join the same club regardless of what they actually think. The weirdo occultism of the Nazis was largely tied to the project of reifying their racial hierarchy in all aspects of society by establishing that the Aryan race had the best religion and the best history in addition to the best genes and the best country. The weirdo occultism of modern fascism doesn’t have that kind of thread to it that I can see, and I don’t know what that means for ongoing development. Does it turn into a source of internal strife as they get closer to having actual influence? Do they settle into a more specific doctrine and cull the ranks of those who don’t adopt it? Or is accepting a consensus reality actually the optional part here as long as the group can broadly agree on what to do?
Helena Blavatsky and Rudolph Steiner made up much of what went on to constitute esoteric Hilterism ab nihilo.
Blavatsky, in particular, was a prolific bullshitter in the Frankfurtian sense. She invented the notion of the Aryan master race as a thing that exists in the future, which white europeans should strive to bring into the world.
new EA hangout found, a snip at £3.5m
“sold by the Society of the Precious Blood” paging peter thiel
Not stately enough.
pivot-to-ai.com needs a new theme. Blocksy looks really nice - but it doesn’t work with WP Dark Mode and caches badly.
Need a 2 column blog theme suiting full short posts on the front page, that plays nice with Dark Mode. Any tips?
I’m not familiar with Indian politics but I’m curious if anyone understands what this site is or what its politics are https://democracycollective.in (I’m just nosy and curious, I saw this pop up out of nowhere)
Though maybe I already have an idea:
You can read a blog post from the dude who started that site here: https://rushabh-mehta.medium.com/starting-a-new-political-party-28a2e70cc8c3 I didn’t spot any huge red flags, but I didn’t dig too deep (nor do I know the first thing about Indian politics).
Apparently he aims to start an online political party without any leaders or hierarchy where everything gets voted on. Not to be too cynical, but looking at how small it is right now I imagine they won’t get far enough to see why that doesn’t really work.
It’s my strong belief that rats only like analytic philosophy because of the word “analytic” in the title. If there were some other broad category of philosophy with a name more synonymous with “rational” they’d be all over it.
“Boolean psychology”
“Mathematical psychology”
You would expect some actual bayesian analysis in a stats-heavy field like psych, though.
I assume it would be more vibes-based Bayes.
the birth of a cursed phrase
@BlueMonday1984 @dgerard The completely open ‘I’m scamming the elderly’ at the end is kinda chilling
Its a surprisingly good complement to OP Chris Paxton’s Tweet about “normie opinion on AI”, given it shows why said “normie opinion” is so resoundingly negative.
I’ve made some brief nods to how the AI bubble is rapidly souring public perception of tech (here and here), but it really feels like AI has, to quote @datarama, “made tech synonymous with “monstrous assholes” in a non-trivial chunk of public consciousness”.
I feel like I should collect my thoughts on that front - I could probably make an interesting post out of it.
Jeremy Keith on the bullshit “privacy sandbox” in chrome and firefox: https://adactio.com/journal/21285
I like Jeremy because he is an OG, but I think his requirement for proof that targeted advertising “works” before the browsers implement these features is off the mark for me. He’s an agency guy, a bit like Andy Budd, so they tend to have these really visceral takes about the state of the web but with this skewed perspective of best interests
There was no technical reason why we couldn’t have web fonts. The reason why we didn’t get web fonts for years and years was because browser makers were concerned about piracy and type foundries.
I was a bit surprised when I learned fonts are CORSd at least party as a sort of primitive DRM so that font companies would buy into the webfont spec (that’s how I remember it anyway, it’s been awhile since I dug up the relevant mailing list messages)
Google just announced they’re not getting rid of third party cookies after all. They announced this in a wordy blog post with so much spin as to be confusing (as is tradition): https://privacysandbox.com/news/privacy-sandbox-update/
We developed the Privacy Sandbox with the goal of finding innovative solutions that meaningfully improve online privacy while preserving an ad-supported internet that supports a vibrant ecosystem of publishers, connects businesses with customers, and offers all of us free access to a wide range of content.
god, the opening paragraph made my head spin with tech pr copy
could you imagine what web development would be like in a world where browser standards, features, and sandboxes weren’t firmly in the grips of these marketing chucklefucks?
like, I’ve mentioned to coworkers “hey isn’t the browser sandbox kind of bullshit? there’s so many parts of it that don’t do anything for security, but they make things harder for developers and easier for advertisers” and I don’t think a single one knew what I was talking about, because web development as a field has been captured by ad agencies. shit, find me one web development reference that isn’t owned by an ad agency.
and now they’re secure enough in that control that they do this fully mask-off shit, confident they’ll get away with it, cause who’s gonna stop them? bets on Mozilla reversing course on blocking third-party cookies now that google’s gone in this direction
“And now they’re secure enough in that control that they do this fully mask-off shit …”
That whole DRM-the-web attestation thing Google proposed last year was eye opening. Sure, they had been evil for a while, but the fact that they knew they could start proposing stuff like that at all is just so bleak. In a sane world, that behaviour would instantly result in serious antitrust lawsuits.
the wife sent this one to me
I’ll allow it
what can I say he cooked
That’s how he suckers you in!
From a piece by Scott Alexander, I think.
oh no i just learned something new about my wife
Most women think about steppe nomads at least once a day.
buddy slept through ww1+2 (it fits because brits called germans huns in their propaganda), also, roughly 5% of world population
Catching up on SMBC and finding a quality sneer I’m a little bit surprised I didn’t find here sooner.
NASBLOL (I’m not sure this abbreviation will work out): “Investors in anti-Biden cryptocurrencies are getting absolutely destroyed.” (Source)
more on the nsfw side but this is a kinda interesting finding/use of existing tech
niche because only some types of slop, but still!
not only are the DCs burning water and harming ears, we’re on to the stage of taiwan not farming rice in service of making more chips
She shows us one of her rice paddies. It used to hold enough water to raise ducks. Now it’s nothing but cracked earth and a few crispy flowers.
I’m neither a climate nor agriculture scientist so I can’t guess the longer term impact of this; I immediately wonder whether the soil could get harmed by disuse over years, along with other warming-related problems
I’m too angry to even sneer properly at this. it’s so fucking obviously nuts, but perverse incentives roll right ahead unchecked.
