• MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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      When I find a solvent on pubchem that has the taste characterized by some mad lad from the 1800s, it makes me want to try it.

      You say THF is spicy water? Now I’m curious. We must confirm this claim.

      I hear ether smells good. We must confirm this claim.

      These fancy new box cutters are safe and cannot cut your hand. We must confirm this claim.

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      Look, I’m all for green chemistry, and I’ll switch to using safer, more environmentally friendly reagents and solvents the second they are close to the efficacy of the real deal.

      Until then, leave my acetone and heavy-metal catalysts alone!

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        Acetone is rather green (7 in GSK solvent guide), but I for one haven’t used heavy metal catalysts in a year, and more if you don’t count palladium

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      Like, so what if we store our tBuLi with other low-flash point flammables? And pyrophoric oxidizers? In the same bin? That’s stuck in a block of ice because in the 30-year-old freezer because it hasn’t ever been de-iced?

      What if the power goes out for a long period of time and the tBuLi goes for a swim? Or we say you have to de-ice the freezer?

      Haha sounds crazy. And, I wouldn’t have to do the shitty quench before disposal. Or work on that project anymore.

      Because you’re injured or because PI fires you?

      Haha, yeah :)

      :|

      :)

      :|

      Oh, while you’re here, does this still smell like DCM? I can’t tell if I rotavapped it all off and the NMR tubes all need aqua regia (sorry my b).

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        Like, so what if we store our tBuLi with other low-flash point flammables? And pyrophoric oxidizers? In the same bin? That’s stuck in a block of ice because in the 30-year-old freezer because it hasn’t ever been de-iced?

        That’s just bad management and you shouldn’t store tBuLi that long anyway because it’ll decompose. You shouldn’t put it in freezer either

        Oh, while you’re here, does this still smell like DCM? I can’t tell if I rotavapped it all off and the NMR tubes all need aqua regia (sorry my b).

        just put it on high vacuum

        What are you working with that requires aqua regia to clean NMR tubes? I’ve only had to use piranha once in a decade, while cleaning things that acetone, DCM, and basic ethanol won’t touch, and this was just after moving to another lab

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          That’s just bad management / just put it on high vacuum

          Yes. The whole thing is satirizing the “Safety -> Against” bit. Each piece, though exaggerated for effect, has a basis in something I’ve seen over the years.

          Regarding NMR tubes though, the answer in my old group was precious metal complexes, which have a tendency to mirror out once they’ve done their bit. Or just existed for too long; a lot of them were touchy. The mirror tends to resist solvents and scrubbing. Nitric acid alone sometimes was enough to remove it depending on the metal, but often not. At some point the cost, effort, and danger are all supposed to outweigh just binning the lot and buying new tubes, but my PI was allergic to buying new things.

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        Aqua regia isn’t even that scary. Try pipetting pure bromine while it shoots itself out from constantly evaporating

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          Aqua regia ain’t no piranha, and also ain’t the most concerning thing in my post lol.

          Ah bromime. Super dense, low MW, and low bp, all making dosing accurate amounts a heroic feat. If you store your bromine cold, you can precool the pipette by sucking up and spitting out a few times before transfering, which helps cut down the vapor.