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    5 months ago

    I’ve known about this woman for years and been a Tron fan since I wore out the VHS when I was six, and I never realized they were connected.

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    5 months ago

    Yeah I saw some videos of her trying to dress up as a man in some presentation video about an electronic instrument and it just felt so out of place. She’s definitely a woman.

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      5 months ago

      This seems nuts but it’s true. She had privately transitioned but hadn’t yet come out in 1970, and had to make some public appearances wearing awkward fake sideburns (and maybe a short-haired wig?) to pose as a man. More info here on Pink News.

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      5 months ago

      Thank you, if you hadn’t posted it, I would have. I was literally just watching this again for the umpteenth time yesterday. One of my favorite videos of all time.

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    5 months ago

    5 years ago…

    5 years ago was 2019, that statement is equally funny as it is horrifying

    • As a kid I listened to Walter Carlos’ Switched on series, and was the kind of nerd to be a huge fan at the time. Then suddenly Wendy Carlos was continuing Walter’s work and claiming she was responsible for everything Walter had done.

      I was like ten, and we didn’t have the internet or even CDs yet, so it sound like a sibling or marital spat, and eventually the news trickled down they were one and the same.

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    It makes me feel icky to type it out… The terms “tranny” and “transvestite” were very common nomenclature in the 90s. In conversation, movies, television. Trans people were often a punchline. And absolutely existed.

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      Transvestite, I believe, is also a term applied to intersex persons as well, as far as I know… At least historically.

      The condition of being intersex, as far as I’m aware, is a well known condition dating back really far.

      Those people truly have no gender (and/or they’re both genders? IDK), so “trans” doesn’t really apply to them IMO.

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        People used to use hermaphrodite as a slur not that long ago for intersex people, as well.

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        intersex people are exactly that - somewhere outside of the binary of the two sexes. Thanks to them we see the clearest example of how gender is simply assigned to a child at birth. Majority of intersex children are forced into one of the binary sexes and then forcefully assigned a gender to match so they can be “normal”.

        and it honestly comes down to the individual if they see themselves as trans or not, some might see what their parents did to be a forced transition, some might want to detransition from that, some might not

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    5 months ago

    Are They the ones with the sick sideburns playing with a homemade synth in that video from the 70s?

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      Already have seen this. I have seen arguments pointing out what the Nazis did to trans people, the first clinic for trans people, and the research materials on it, get met with replies that it’s revisionist, fraudulent, jewish, propaganda.

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        5 months ago

        JK Rowling did that not too long ago. (She didn’t call it Jewish, but absolutely called it lies and propaganda that trans people and trans researchers were early targets for the Nazis and victims of the Holocaust.)

        I don’t say this to obsess over the Harry Potter author, but to point out that you don’t have to go cherry picking to find this shit. She’s a prominent person using her platform to spread bigotry and misinformation.

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          oh yeah, i know about her, she is putting that stuff into the mainstream. Worst part is, she is likely so touchy about this because of her own gender identity issues that she has ignored rather than resolve.

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            Yeah. I know that calling bigots secretly closeted is problematic, but IIRC she has outright said that, if she were a young person today, she would question her gender identity.

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              Oh, I am not just saying this because she is anti-trans, I am saying this because she has been speaking about her issues gender for like 20, nearly 20, years now. The more that she came out with, the more hard line anti-trans she showed herself to be. This is probably made all the worse from her trauma from rape. But hey, I am not her psychologist.

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        Worth noting: a lot of the material from that German trans clinic in the 1920s-30s was destroyed by the doctors themselves. Y’know. To protect their patients from the god-damned Nazis.