I’m an adult, if I find something offensive I’ll either block it or ignore it. However, not giving me the choice offends me and IMHO goes against what Lemmy and the fediverse was suppose to deliver.
I understand (and read) the reason’s why site owners defederate and I view it largely as “Lemmy isn’t mature enough to support more granular blocking - yet”, so I wait patiently and hope this trend towards defederation doesn’t turn into a powertrip by site owners “for the good of their users…”
Imo, defederation isn’t the exile sentence everyone is making out to be. It is used like you said as a bandaid as a moderation tool, but really just about “anyone” can boot up an instance and have complete agency on which Instances are visible.
I’d be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club, but this this is a more complex discussion, and there is no sign of it happenning.
I’d be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club
You’d still be able to join the instances directly, or join an instance that doesn’t follow the big “whitelist club”.
Right now instances are already split across some lines, and you need accounts on an instance of a certain “group” in order to access the content from those instances… and that’s a feature, not a bug.
Depends on the reason for me. I totally get why .world blocked those 3 communities (not a defed I know but still) given the possible legal issues and given the admin isn’t a lawyer and can’t afford to retain a high powered legal team. Blocking those communities until they have a legal opinion just seems like good sense to me.
The hexbear thing - they’re evangelical totalitarians politically. They believe what they believe and everything they talk about revolves around that and they need you to hear it, again and again and again. It’s just mentally exhausting dealing with them, especially when a large part of their freely admitted m.o. is brigading/dog-piling.
Being fedded with lemmynsfw didn’t bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on ‘All’. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues? That’s probably a pretty good reason to defed from an instance.
So, and this is admittedly all from my perspective, I haven’t seen any overbearing uses of defedding.
And I think people need to realise defedding is not like banning. On reddit if a sub got banned it was gone. On Lemmy if one instance defeds from another, the other instance is still there. You still have the choice to view it.
The defederation topic and how it impacts me.
I’m an adult, if I find something offensive I’ll either block it or ignore it. However, not giving me the choice offends me and IMHO goes against what Lemmy and the fediverse was suppose to deliver.
I understand (and read) the reason’s why site owners defederate and I view it largely as “Lemmy isn’t mature enough to support more granular blocking - yet”, so I wait patiently and hope this trend towards defederation doesn’t turn into a powertrip by site owners “for the good of their users…”
Imo, defederation isn’t the exile sentence everyone is making out to be. It is used like you said as a bandaid as a moderation tool, but really just about “anyone” can boot up an instance and have complete agency on which Instances are visible.
I’d be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club, but this this is a more complex discussion, and there is no sign of it happenning.
You’d still be able to join the instances directly, or join an instance that doesn’t follow the big “whitelist club”.
Right now instances are already split across some lines, and you need accounts on an instance of a certain “group” in order to access the content from those instances… and that’s a feature, not a bug.
There’s already shared bannlists in the works.
Depends on the reason for me. I totally get why .world blocked those 3 communities (not a defed I know but still) given the possible legal issues and given the admin isn’t a lawyer and can’t afford to retain a high powered legal team. Blocking those communities until they have a legal opinion just seems like good sense to me.
The hexbear thing - they’re evangelical totalitarians politically. They believe what they believe and everything they talk about revolves around that and they need you to hear it, again and again and again. It’s just mentally exhausting dealing with them, especially when a large part of their freely admitted m.o. is brigading/dog-piling.
Being fedded with lemmynsfw didn’t bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on ‘All’. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues? That’s probably a pretty good reason to defed from an instance.
So, and this is admittedly all from my perspective, I haven’t seen any overbearing uses of defedding.
And I think people need to realise defedding is not like banning. On reddit if a sub got banned it was gone. On Lemmy if one instance defeds from another, the other instance is still there. You still have the choice to view it.