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    Honestly, the insistence that Lemmy has better discussions than Reddit. Mostly even popular posts have too few comments to constitute any in depth discussion. I won’t be going back to Reddit but I miss the vibrancy.

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      This but about how almost everything about Lemmy is spun as either good, or better than reddit’s equivalent.

      Like the other day I saw a post about how Lemmy’s active users were on the decline, trying to claim that was somehow good for Lemmy. Or back when Lemmy had its /r/place copy, there were plenty of people saying it was better than reddit’s. Basically anything about Lemmy that’s somewhat lacking has people desperately trying to defend it as actually superior.

      It borders on delusional at times. Yes Lemmy is good, but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count. And this is coming from one of the people who deleted their reddit account and replaced it with Lemmy cold turkey - I haven’t been back there (except for porn) in almost 8 weeks.

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          You do know you need an account on the NSFW instances to see the stuff on them right?

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                The stickied post on nsfw lemmy or ask lemmy or something else? And there’s more porn? Because honestly, that’s like telling me there’s more furry, Star Trek, and Linux content there- it’s already all over my front page and I don’t need any more.

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        but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count.

        It’s not though, because it’s all locked away through an interface that doesn’t work for many people. And it doesn’t matter how good what’s on the other side is, if there is a barrier that ensures I won’t ever be on the other side.

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          That’s just being obtuse. Reddit does, in fact, have better content. You wouldn’t say a restaurant has shitty food because you don’t like the decor.

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            That’s just being obtuse. Reddit does, in fact, have better content.

            I’m not denying that. I’m saying it doesn’t matter, because I can’t access it except through an app that I actively dislike using

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      I still use both Lemmy and Reddit and I honestly think Lemmy is in a sweet spot where there are enough comments for a discussion but not enough to go off topic.

      Reddit discussions are never about the OP, they’re always riffing on an off-topic joke that someone made in a reply to the already off-topic top comment.

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        Eh, Lemmy has the issue where the activity is low enough that the substantial number of low effort comments and comments that regurgitate the same bland sentiment are overwhelming.

        These comments were annoying on Reddit and was my primary reason for leaving.

        Hackernews manages a better balance. It is not as active as Reddit but there are a lot of insightful comments that balance out the low-effort contributions.

        As an example: I’d happily happily throw a block party the day Elon Musk launches himself into the sun. I don’t need to see an article every time he takes a dump and the corresponding 50 comments about “elon is a menace”

        Or anything Threads. The amount of exaggerated and irrational commentary about that was incredibly offputting.

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        It really depends on the topic. The big topics in Lemmy are better. But there’s a lot of niche content that just isn’t there.

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      Same dog piling happens on lemmy as it did in reddit. You try to introduce any nuance for discussion on a circle jerk thread, and it’s down vote knee reactions.

      I tried tildes, but it’s the opposite problem. Pages of text for simple arguments that could be expressed in a paragraph, and people mincing words being too polite to get to the fucking point that they disagree. And if you’re blunt and to the point, it ruffles feathers.

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        Same dog piling happens on lemmy as it did in reddit. You try to introduce any nuance for discussion on a circle jerk thread, and it’s down vote knee reactions.

        This isn’t a reddit or Lemmy problem. It’s just what humans do. If your looking for a platform where you’ll never encounter this, you’ll be looking forever.

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      Lemmy users also tend to be stuck in one mind set and that is they know what they are talking about all the time no matter what even if their opinion is actually kind of shit.

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      I half-agree with this. I think that this depends a lot on the topic and, while the smaller amount of comments does hurt discussion depth, the individual comments themselves partially offset this by being more thoughtful.

      And, while anecdotal, I think that there’s a considerably lower ratio of comments with negative discussion value here in Lemmy than in Reddit. I’m not even talking about the out-of-place jokes (although they add noise), but shit like this:

      • “waaah, TL;DR!!” discouraging in-depth explainations
      • feigned lack of understanding as ad nauseam tactic
      • context illiteracy
      • unchecked assumptions towards other users, for the sake of ad hominem
      • “trust me”

      Don’t get me wrong; you do find this crap here, but IMO it’s way less than in Reddit. And they hurt discussion because they either waste the time of the more thoughtful and knowledgeable users, or outright disengage them.

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      I agree 100%. On Reddit you usually had the same style top few comments but under those you could actually see good conversation and discussions. Here everyone thinks they are right and you are wrong and nothing you can say can change that.

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      Alright lemmy let’s give this guy the most in depth talk about why lemmy has better discussions than reddit.

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    Tankies.

    You can’t have a discussion about anything without some tankie blaming it on the US / the west / capitalism, etc.

    “Oh you stubbed your toe on the table? See, tables are oppressive furniture of the bourgeoisie. The Chinese government wanted to make all tables toe-stubbing resistent, but that would affect IKEA’s bottom line and the pharmaceutical industry’s profits. I have a source from tankiepeoplesmagazine to back this up.”

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      I made the mistake of mentionning social democracy once. This was followed by the most pedantic, insufferable and useless argument I have ever had on the internet. I had better discussions with wall. This was first and last time I was replying to those comments. It is easy to ignore anyway. Sometime you learn the hard way.

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        I’m genuinely curious to see that … do you have a link at all or something to search for?

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      bourgeoisie

      Always makes me laugh when I see this. I’m tempted to start a hexbear bingo, it’ll be the first one on the list!

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      I almost never see this, but I see complaints about “tankies” all the time. I’m not even sure what a tankie is, but it seems about as stupid as the term “woke”.

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        Have a look at comments in any news article regarding Ukraine. They will simp for Russia just because they are not US allies.

        A tankie is commonly used to refer to someone who blindly defends the actions of the USSR, China, North Korea, etc. Going as far as denying human rights abuses and genocide.

        It’s not the same thing as woke.

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          I know it’s not the same as woke, the word just hits the same level of annoyingness for me.

          I’m all for shutting down those who support Russia right now, I just feel like using buzzwords makes it more difficult to take people seriously.

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              I never saw that word used until I came to lemmy. I had to look it up and found that exact same wiki page for it.

              Just because its a real word with a wiki page doesn’t make it any less annoying to constantly see on here. And only here. I see that word on NO other sites I ever visit.

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                It’s a very common word in leftist circles. So if Lemmy is your first contact with leftists (beyond center left), then that explains it.

                Being annoying is your opinion, but it’s not a buzzword that someone gen z invented recently.

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                  I didn’t say it was a buzzword.

                  I’m in the US and “lefty” might mean something different for me than it does for you. Where I live and the sites I go on - have leftys on there but no, they never use the term tankie.

                  Annoying is an opinion yes, but I’m saying its annoying because of how often it is brought up. Not that I’m siding with tankies or people who are against tankies.

                  Anything that gets repeated over and over is going to come across as annoying. Unless you like redundancy.

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      What’s equally annoying is people who won’t shut up about “tankies.”

      Honestly, everyone across this argument sucks. But I wold like to point out, that not a single “tankie” has complained about anything in the comments here.

      You, however….

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          The funny thing is that u/Pratai@lemmy.ca is in lemmy.ca which defederated hexbear and lemmygrad so he won’t see the annoying tankies.

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            Wouldn’t care if I did. Because I don’t care what other people are into.

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          So complaining about too much complaining in a thread for complaining is too much complaining because it’s not the complaint you yourself have?

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            I too am able to complain about the complainants complaint. if you have a complaint concerning my complaint complaint complaint please don’t hesitate to post it as a response to this complaint

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              Well, I don’t mind if I do!! Fourth complaint is the charm?!

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          Buttthurt? Don’t think you know me that well kiddo.

          I was simply pointing out the irony. I couldn’t care less about either side of the argument.

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          I don’t think so … I think that’s someone talking about what is the most annoying thing you have seen about Lemmy users? … the question and point of the post. Honestly, I think it’s poor form to create a thread for criticising lemmy users/culture to then find certain critiques (which you evidently disagree with) to be inherently invalid without presenting any sort of discussion or explanation for your view in any remotely polite fashion.

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          Did you miss the part where I said everyone across the argument sucks? I didn’t even know what a tankie was until I asked a while back. I think the entire thing is fucking stupid.

          But I see a LOT of people whining about them. Which is ironic considering that the person I responded to called themselves out by making evening about tankies, while people who whine about them do exactly that by whining about them.

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        Yea, I’m with you … the most “annoying” think about tankies is all of the noise about them as though they’re some degenerate scum bringing down society.

        It’s not hard to move past a political opinion you don’t like, or a big and hairy political debate you don’t have time/energy for. But it doesn’t mean a whole bunch of people have to be shunned/exiled because they happen to trigger your inability to do so … or that you have to whine about their presence all of the time.

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          If they’re in your comments saying it’s a good thing civilians are being tortured to death and bombed because they were born in the wrong place then that’s not just political differences.

          Their goal is explicitly to silence others by sheer volume of bullshit.

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            saying it’s a good thing civilians are being tortured to death and bombed because they were born in the wrong place

            I mean, who disagrees with you here … that’s the sort of stuff moderation and blocking is for.

            But I can’t help but suspect (perhaps naively) that that’s your read of someone else’s opinion and not what they actually said or even intended to say, largely because it seems you’re projecting consequences onto a difference of principles/interpretations.

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              No they’re actively supporting it in a literal sense. Tell them Russia needs to stop killing civilians and they’ll say something about corruption needing to be purged (as if killing civilians will do that), or something about denazification (implying all Ukrainians deserve to be killed), or deny it’s happening despite all evidence

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                Some of them have a real thing for saying the Tiananmen Square massacre never happened and there’s no evidence, too. I guess I just hallucinated those news reports at the time with screams and gunfire in the background.

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                Hmmm … I think I might have seen a statement or two like that. Though, in my cases, it seemed a lot more like moving the goal posts or not arguing so well their general anti-western sentiment … I don’t think I’ve seen anyone go so far as to support the killing of civilians (in fact, I saw opposition to the deaths of civilians).

                Do you have any receipts?

                And, FWIW, my general position here is that I’m not a “tankie” or whatever and don’t necessarily like everything they have to say around here, but, by default I lean toward having access to a wide set of opinions so long as I have the option of walking away or ignoring them when I need to. The thing that disturbs me about a lot of the “anti-tankie” sentiments is that it looks a lot like an aggressive enforcement of a political bubble against any hardline critiques of the west. I, for one, am happy to hear said critiques even if they are off-base most of the time, in part because I have no doubt that we are all living in sometimes petty political bubbles.

                That, of course, doesn’t excuse being awful … it’s just that I haven’t encountered the degree of awfulness that many speak about and whenever I’ve gone looking (which, admittedly isn’t deeply or often) I have struggled to find what has been accused. Because of this, I’m always curious to see what “anti-tankies” are talking about.

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                  I have zero problems with critique of the west. The problem is those people only want to allow criticism of the west and nothing else

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          I keep seeing this type of argument being made, the problem is though, it’s not just political differences.

          These users will brigade, follow you around, harass you, post objectionable memes and content, etc if you disagree with them. If you think that it’s just “political differences” and not a big deal, I suggest you spend your time preaching to the group that actually can’t handle being disagreed with and not the rest of us for simply noticing and talking about how horrible that group is.

          I’ve also seen “we’re adults, so lets just move on and not defederate/ban” but the problem here is one group is not actually acting like adults so that argument doesn’t work.

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            I’ve also seen “we’re adults, so lets just move on and not defederate/ban”

            I’m not talking about defederation. Anyone wants to defederate, go right ahead, that’s your right here, and I’m not too interested in getting upset at anyone that wants to do so. That being said, talking about defederation decisions and policies at a general level is also important because of the relationship admins have over users … though here on lemmy we’re pretty happy having multiple accounts and moving around so it isn’t so much of an issue.

            These users will brigade, follow you around, harass you, post objectionable memes and content,

            Woah … I haven’t seen that, do you have links/receipts on that?

            I suggest you spend your time preaching to the group that actually can’t handle being disagreed with

            I presume you’re talking about tankies … what do you mean by “can’t handle”?

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          People who support the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the CCP’s violations of human rights ARE degenerate scum bringing down society.

          I am never going to stop whining about their presence.

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          Shrugging off extremist views as “just a political opinion” that should be ignored if you don’t like it is like the #1 way to normalize and spread extremist views. You do not, and should not, politely ignore extremist. Doing so is explicitly allowing and inviting more into your community. Tankies can fuck off and I will continue to say so.

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            Well, the way I see it is that tankies are pretty much a minority without any power in the west, and, at least the ones I’ve seen around here, aren’t actively organising any sort of violent revolutionary behaviour or anything … which means their views tend to always be critiques of the powerful western governments and mainstream cultures form the perspectives of minorities, and often in ways that many in the mainstream find unpalatable, and therefore unconvincing. So, even if “extreme” (whatever you mean by that exactly) in some way, it’s a “punching up” kind of “extreme” that I’m open minded to hearing, however agreeable or disagreeable I tend to find their opinions.

            Do you really think tankies are convincing? This thread, at least, indicates otherwise. So much “extremism” are they going to be spreading? IMO, the sort of “extremism” much more likely to spread is the sort of stuff driven by hate of some sort of “other” weaker and smaller than the mainstream as a scapegoat, not least because it’s more amenable to the worldview(s) of the larger and more powerful majority.

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              The “extremist views” I’m talking about is the support for authoritarian regimes that use draconian laws and excessive military force to enforce the law. Tankies often do support the subjugation of people they deem “lesser”, but unlike extremist on the far right, they often keep that part quiet.

              The fact that you’re downplaying the extremity of Tankie talking points is a perfect example of how they are able to normalize their opinions by being allowed a voice in groups where their opinions should be shunned and shamed.

              This is a great breakdown of the exact thing I’m talking about.. The video focuses on these tactics and how they are used by the alt-right, but this is not something exclusive to the right and is exactly what tankies are doing on lemmy.

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          Here is how I read this,

          “You don’t have to make me feel like I am whining about things.”

          “So you stop whining about things. Quit talking so I can.”

          Found yet another Lemmy user to prove my point.

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            So a lemmy user criticising a general behavour of lemmy users in a thread asking lemmy users what crticisms they have of other lemmy users … is considered by the OP of the thread to be problematic and “proof of [their] point” … I’m honestly lost.

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          It’s not hard to move past a political opinion you don’t like, or a big and hairy political debate you don’t have time/energy for. But it doesn’t mean a whole bunch of people have to be shunned/exiled because they happen to trigger your inability to do so … or that you have to whine about their presence all of the time.

          Funny, you sound just like my uncle. Do you have confederate flags hanging up in your room too, like he does?

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    All the “Linux is obviously superior, anybody that doesn’t use Linux is a sheep” comments.

    We get it, you use Linux. That’s fine, but nobody else actually gives a shit. It’s exactly like the typical loud vegan or crossfit stereotypes except those are generally less fat and are generally nicer to be around. You guys need to tone it down quite a bit, you don’t realize how off putting you’re making Linux to people.

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      As a Linux user myself, it saddens me to see how much the Linux fandom is invalidating itself with its aggressive attitude.

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        As a proud GNU/ArchHat Ubungentoo Linux user, I disagree. I need others to know and agree with my choice of distribution, desktop environment, shell (POSIX sh btw), untained patched kernel, AMD graphics card, and IDE (vim obvs). How else would I get to feel like I’m more woke than other users both inside and outside my fandom?

        Parody aside: It’s one thing to politely discuss your software choices with other people to help them find things they haven’t tried before. It’s another to proselytize like a self-righteous prick.

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      I feel the worst examples is when you try to engage with the Linux people trying to explain why you can’t use it and they’re just in complete denial

      I like Linux, but I can’t use it because I very frequently use CAD programmes like fusion 360 which run exclusively on windows. Mention that and you’ll spammed with “what about FreeCAD?” From people who either have never used freeCAD and are just grabbing the first Google result for “fusion 360 FOSS alternatives” or are in complete denial over how goddamn shit freeCAD is like I’m sorry that is not a functional alternative.

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        Oh man the FreeCAD discussion

        I also use fusion and while FreeCAD has improved significantly, it’s still lacking in critical areas

        The replies are always “but it’s gotten better”

        Yeah, and it still pops up and error and wrests control away if you dare select a dimension tool and points/lines in the “wrong” order

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          The replies are always “but it’s gotten better”

          It’s funny how often I see this.

          Comment from 2023: “Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now.”

          Comment from 2021: “Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now.”

          Comment from 2015: “Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now.”

          Comment from 2004: “Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now.”

          You can see that said about just about any FOSS software. And I am a total FOSS-head myself, more commenting on the community than the software.

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        Same boat. I do dev work and there is simply no Linux alternative for some of the custom tools we use. I tried dual-booting and running VMs, even got one with direct access to the gpu, in the end it is a huge time sink.

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          Sure, but I don’t see how that’s an issue with the people suggesting Linux? If you can’t use it, ok, but there’s no reason why they’re going to assume that.

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      Were you online before Facebook? It was mostly nerds in the 90s and half nerds in the 2000s. You came to a car show and are upset that people are talking about cars. You’re on Wall Street asking “what’s up with all the suits?”

      Literally no one is going to tone it down.

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        I never understood this either. “Why are users of an aggressively open-source service so adamant about using open-source software?” Especially when Lemmy’s been around for years, so yeah it’s cultivated a majority Linux userbase.

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          Same, when you’re so dead set against open source, why not stay at the commercial solutions?

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            It’a not about being against open source, it’s about putting practicality over ideals. Some software simply isn’t there yet.

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              Most open source adepts are practical, but most would prefer a tad of less perfect of free open source then perfect closed source.

              For me, the main computer needs to be stable, the rest is for messing about with. I’m glad I found open source solutions for most issues. (apart from breaking open Android devices)

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            Man, I’m just here because I found spez’s reaction to criticism both sad and so disgustingly corporatist that I didn’t want to interact with his product anymore. But I don’t have strong opinions on that sort of thing. My internet usage is mostly just killing time between work and real life tasks. Mostly early morning while I’m just waiting for my Adderall to kick in and for it to get late enough in the morning to get started on stuff. This internet space is not a significant part of my life. But I do want my time here to be enjoyable and the weird way that people on here make subjective choices a major part of their personality and get aggressive to outsiders can be off-putting. I’m clearly not alone in this. A lot of people just want a place to casually read some interesting stuff on the internet without constantly being preached to about the moral necessity of specific computer environments everywhere you go. Enjoying it as a hobby or whatever is fine, but like, chill guys. There isn’t some Linux Hell we’ll end up in if we don’t convert before we all die.

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        But this isn’t a Linux-centered instance.

        Just because the Fediverse is FOSS doesn’t mean we have to shill out to everything FOSS on every instance.

        That is like claiming since the Fediverse runs on servers, we should all ditch our regular computers and phones and only connect over server hardware.

        It is okay to like FOSS, but it is an other thing to keep bringing it up ad nauseam, especially if the topic isn’t even related. It only makes the Linux community look bad.

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          But this isn’t a Linux-centered instance.

          Your instance maybe, but some are, like programming.dev, and the way federation works is we can all talk to eachother.

          Not everyone is on db0 either but unless you’re on lemmy.world, welcome to !c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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          Then downvote them and move on, man. You’re complaining about people using the platform they believe in to talk about something else they believe in. They’re not doing anything wrong, and whether or not it annoys you is not anyon else’s concern but your own.

          That’s why there a voting system.

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      Yes! As well as “Only ever use hardened Firefox Librewolf and Duckduckgo, every other product is the literal devil”

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        I mean…we have quite a bit of evidence of at this point that Google and Microsoft are creating problems for the future of the internet and technology in general.

        I won’t say they’re the literal devil but I can’t say I’d argue with anyone that says they are.

        Calling out horrible practices and encouraging people to use the alternatives that don’t do that shit…yeah, I’m not seeing an issue.

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      Frankly, if you’re still all-in on the Windows or Apple ecosystem, there’s no way to pull you to Linux.

      The best Linux spokesmen has been Microsoft lately. I’m not using Linux because I necessarily want to. I want to keep using my clean version of 10, but they’re taking that choice from me. I’m using Linux because I won’t tolerate that shit at this point.

      So Linux folks can be as aggressive as they want, it won’t move the needle either way. People are either willing to try it to escape Apple and Microsoft, or they aren’t.

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    All the empty communities without any motivation from the creating user to actually be involved in their own community. I honestly think they should be deleted if they’re not active. Inb4 “be the change/create your own”. No, I don’t want to run a community so I don’t create a community. Neither should you. Nobody benefits from all these empty reservations of space. It might actually hinder the people who have a need for a community. It’s like showing up at an empty store. “Oh I guess I’ll go somewhere else for this then”

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    I’m annoyed by all those Facebook-type boomer comics you see on basically all meme subs. Reddit culture managed to get rid of them, but for some reason people here seem to love them

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      Look, sometimes people enjoy brainless humor and that’s okay. People have hard days. Twelve hours in the field days. Sometimes people are tired and just want something easy and that’s perfectly valid.

      As the sages of old said, “It’s okay to not like things. It’s okay, but don’t be a dick about it.”

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        I know, I don’t really care, I’m just replying to the thread :)

        It’s annoying but also interesting to see that people upvote different things

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        This would be the last one I saw. I probably have plenty more examples in my downvotes, but I don’t think they’re accessible on Lemmy :(

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            its an old style comic that was used mostly for political cartoons back in the day but now they’re just memes. There was a sub reddit for them specifically.

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            Kids don’t like anything that doesn’t have foul language, sexual innuendos, or involves subtly.

            That said, while I liked the comic linked, it had no business being posted in a meme community.

            Sincerely, A boomer

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    It’s really goddamn preachy. There’s a real sense of superiority a lot of users have that I don’t recall as much on Reddit.

    There’s also the fact that small communities are dead and it’s next to impossible to grow them, so you’re stuck with the same people on the front page every day.

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    Political extremists. So about the same as Reddit, though they seem to be a little more frequent/outspoken here. Also funnily enough the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Used to get called a dirty commie because I believed in Nationalized healthcare, but now I’m apparently a facist for not worshipping the CCP.

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      I see 1000 more posts against tankies then actual talkie posts… so like… get off it.

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    The number of pro-communist posts in here is comical. The amount of anti-capitalist posts is almost comical. Obviously related to some degree.

    The lack of posts outside of a few main news and politics communities is frustrating.

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      It’s sad so many capitalism cheerleaders migrated here, considering most of us are literally here fleeing capitalist greed rot.

      Some just refuse to learn. The sunk cost fallacy of “I’ve committed my life to this thing, and no amount of evidence will ever make me accept my mistake as a mistake!”

      Should have stayed just stayed to be disrespected by Spez in the name of his profit. He’s a good capitalist.

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        Capitalism is the economic equivalent of Nature’s own survival of the fittest.

        No one will claim that capitalism is being implemented perfectly, that’s for sure, but the number of communist clowns on Lemmy is absurd. Bunch of 14 year olds trying to be edgy.

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    The pro china/Russia stuff is super weird. Also the hex bear goons brigading everything.

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    I’m left on the political spectrum but by and large y’all fuckers are over the deep end.

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    Not the users but lemmy itself. Sorting by hot is pointless since you see the same post for days at a time. I get lemmy is small but shit it can’t be that hot for that many days.

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    Just lack of numbers. Reddit’s at it’s best when I can use it to discuss some incredibly niche topic. That early 2000s RTS that nobody remembers? Got a few dozen redditors still posting memes. New indie game drops? There’s enough redditors on it that we can talk about it.

    But lemmy seems really bad for trying to enjoy any community that isn’t a big political or meme centerpiece. Any particular game or IP that isn’t a lowest common denominator? It’ll get maybe 3 posts a month.

    No more interesting discussions of gameplay mechanics or inspirations or character analyses, no burning out an entire workday browsing the top all-time and giggling like an idiot, it’s just dead here.

    The same massive numbers that made reddit insufferable for some are what make niche communities inhabitable at all.

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      Hopefully if you start creating those topics/communities, people will eventually flock to it.

      That’s what I’m attempting anyway

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        Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds

        An AoE2 licensed reskin that added new mechanics like shield generators and air units. Still have fond memories of it, and it’s been absolutely wild to see that there’s still a community for it after all these years.

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    The defederation topic and how it impacts me.

    I’m an adult, if I find something offensive I’ll either block it or ignore it. However, not giving me the choice offends me and IMHO goes against what Lemmy and the fediverse was suppose to deliver.

    I understand (and read) the reason’s why site owners defederate and I view it largely as “Lemmy isn’t mature enough to support more granular blocking - yet”, so I wait patiently and hope this trend towards defederation doesn’t turn into a powertrip by site owners “for the good of their users…”

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      Imo, defederation isn’t the exile sentence everyone is making out to be. It is used like you said as a bandaid as a moderation tool, but really just about “anyone” can boot up an instance and have complete agency on which Instances are visible.

      I’d be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club, but this this is a more complex discussion, and there is no sign of it happenning.

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        I’d be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club

        You’d still be able to join the instances directly, or join an instance that doesn’t follow the big “whitelist club”.

        Right now instances are already split across some lines, and you need accounts on an instance of a certain “group” in order to access the content from those instances… and that’s a feature, not a bug.

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      Depends on the reason for me. I totally get why .world blocked those 3 communities (not a defed I know but still) given the possible legal issues and given the admin isn’t a lawyer and can’t afford to retain a high powered legal team. Blocking those communities until they have a legal opinion just seems like good sense to me.

      The hexbear thing - they’re evangelical totalitarians politically. They believe what they believe and everything they talk about revolves around that and they need you to hear it, again and again and again. It’s just mentally exhausting dealing with them, especially when a large part of their freely admitted m.o. is brigading/dog-piling.

      Being fedded with lemmynsfw didn’t bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on ‘All’. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues? That’s probably a pretty good reason to defed from an instance.

      So, and this is admittedly all from my perspective, I haven’t seen any overbearing uses of defedding.

      And I think people need to realise defedding is not like banning. On reddit if a sub got banned it was gone. On Lemmy if one instance defeds from another, the other instance is still there. You still have the choice to view it.

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    If anything Lemmy users so far have been much less annoying than most reddit users. I feel like I’m reading through less garbage, and comment sections don’t look like the same joke repeated ad nauseum.

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      Of course you are reading through less garbage. There are like 100 million reddit users and like 10 Lemmy users.

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      My experience has been different. I feel like I see the same, “Linux is better.” Shit all the time. All the memes are also, “Windows user realizing this. Linux user not caring.”

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          Yeah, but that doesn’t happen often.

          Especially when they base their Windows knowledge on only their own preferences, that are usually out-dated or at least poorly researched.

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        People liking Linux is ruining your enjoyment of a FOSS platform? Tell me you appreciate the irony.

        You seem seriously triggered about something you’ve been reading in other threads and need to vent, so go off, let’s here it.

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          And this is the aggressive attitude I was just talking about.

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          Just because you enjoy one instance of FOSS doesn’t mean you have to start a bloodpact with all of them.