• Longpork3@lemmy.nz
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      Built off it, rather than copied it. That’s par for the course in most science.

    • masterofn001@lemmy.ca
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      The Persians, Muslims, Arabs kept knowledge and science that would have been lost during the dark ages.

      If it wasn’t for their continued work in maths and sciences centuries would.have been lost / wasted.

      • SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world
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        Lost because they murdered and destroyed the very civilization that created said knowledge. So very nice of them.

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          because they murdered and destroyed the very civilization that created said knowledge

          What are you talking about?

          Are you blaming the collapse of the Roman Empire and the ensuing Dark Ages on Muslims? (A religion that didn’t even exist yet at the start of the Dark Ages.)

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          Downvotes show that people here don’t know that even in 9th century a large part of the ME’s population was Christian dhimmis. Coptic, Assyrian, Armenian, Nestorian. “Dhimmi” means they couldn’t bear arms and had to pay “protection tax”, and also a “Muslim robbing a dhimmi” situation was usually resolved in favor of the Muslim.

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            Which is vastly different from being murdered and having their civilizations destroyed, like for instance the Crusaders did.

            The Crusaders also did not stop from slaughtering orthodox Christians either.

            When looking at the details, Persian, Arab and Mauretanian rules over people of other religions were much more tolerant and civilized than comparable European ruling situations. I guess the saddest example of these are the Spanish Jews, who flourished under the “Moors” and got genocided and ethnically cleansed by the Catholics, after they were no longer dhimmis under Muslim rule.

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              Are you high or something?

              Which is vastly different from being murdered and having their civilizations destroyed, like for instance the Crusaders did.

              The Crusaders didn’t do a fraction of what Muslims did during their actual initial conquest.

              When looking at the details, Persian, Arab and Mauretanian rules over people of other religions were much more tolerant and civilized than comparable European ruling situations. I guess the saddest example of these are the Spanish Jews, who flourished under the “Moors” and got genocided and ethnically cleansed by the Catholics, after they were no longer dhimmis under Muslim rule.

              I think you should go and learn the meaning of the word “firman” in the Middle-East.

              Anyway - I may agree about late Muslim rule in Spain specifically and some periods of Arab rule in Armenia, Mesopotamia and Egypt.

              In Iran Zoroastrians were to be exterminated, they wouldn’t get that sweet dhimmi status. Which may be one of the reasons it became largely Christian after the conquest and then largely Shia.

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                The Crusaders didn’t do a fraction of what Muslims did during their actual initial conquest.

                The Crusaders killed every man, woman, and child in Jerusalem until the streets were flowing with blood.

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                  4 months ago

                  Go read something on

                  what Muslims did during their actual initial conquest

                  . This was casual for them. The difference is, though, that Crusaders didn’t intentionally destroy books and art.

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      I mean Fibonacci did more or less the same thing to his work a few centuries later, so fair play I guess.