• Makan ☭ CPUSA@lemmygrad.mlOP
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        3 months ago

        Wheel of Time had a good sixth book with the Battle of Dumai’s Wells, but everyone acts like it gets bad after the third one…

        It’s more so that the seventh to eleventh books are bad, not everything after the first one…

        Edit: It picks up again once Sanderson takes the reigns but it’s never the same, dammit…

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        3 months ago

        A chunk of the middle section of the book series is just “what was going on somewhere else n the universe besides the antics of Paul and his Kids on Dune”.

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        Some of the books made some choices that kinda felt in conflict with things presented in the first four. The longer the series goes on, the … well… more incompetent all of the ubermench seem to be but I never could figure out if it was an intentional decision by the authors or not.

        The final chunk of books written by Herbert’s son without his dad. I think I only made it through two before calling it quits. They were just prequels that didn’t feel like they added anything to the lore or add interesting stories to the series.

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          3 months ago

          So it seems to be prequels and spin-offs past a certain point and mostly written by an author who is not on the same level as the original author, right?

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            First chunk of the series is by the original author Frank Herbert, then his son Brian started helping for the next chunk of books. Then Frank died and his son found materials in a forgotten safety deposit box (or so the claim goes) and Brian wrote some more books with help from some other people who’d helped in previous books.

            From my experience, the farther along the books go, they shift to being less Dune and slide into a more typical Sci-Fi/Fantasy with Dune-y aesthetics.

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              3 months ago

              Noted.

              Seems the rest of the series is just “extra stuff,” if you want to peruse them, but nothing truly interesting or consequential.

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                3 months ago

                (Just my opinions, so, keep that in mind.)

                More like explaining things that didn’t need to be explained.

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                The Butlerian Jihad is wrapped up, pretty sure the explanation of what the Golden Path was supposed to lead humanity to overcome is revealed/resolved, the reasons for the conflict in the third book are wrapped up with the resolution of the Butlerian Jihad being finished. So kind of consequential if you wanted the story to “end” but then the series stops being a metaphor about things (like the first part of the books could be argued for) and just a regular sci-fi story.

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      I’ve only read the first two so far, and the 2nd was good, but not on the same level as dune 1. Is the third worth reading?

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        3 months ago

        It moves along the story, but from the other replies to my comment, I didn’t get Dune-pilled hard enough. =)

        Its not bad, though, don’t get me wrong.

        For my money, I could have stopped at the third and probably would have had a pretty high opinion of the series. The fourth one, for me anyways, was interesting in that it had a very different tone but I was reading the books back to back and it felt different enough that it was jarring to my expectations.

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        I really liked Heretics, and god-emperor is widely agreed to be one of the best if not the best of the whole series. 3 is a bit slow, but none of them are bad.