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      When he said in the primary that he should be president since he’s the only one with the experience working with republican politicians and could get them to vote with the Dem party to help Americans…

      I didn’t believe him, but I didn’t think memes would be his strategy.

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        So far he’s proven that you can’t work with them, and that his experience doesn’t make a difference to that fact.

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            But you see, Obama is black, and we already knew Republicans wouldn’t work with a black man. But Biden is white, so he proves they’re not just racist, they’re obstructionist assholes as well.

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          Yeah the statements like that made me really hate that he was winning the primary. Standing next to obama should have taught him… if you do everything they ask, strip 80% of the good things out of the bill, throw in a few favors to the republicans corporate donors. You will still get 0 republican votes, and if you somehow are able to pass it you will still be called a dictator unwilling to work with them.

          In short the lesson is, dont’ try to work with them.

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    I just realized it’s been a few months since I’ve seen that dumbass let’s go Brandon chant. Dark Brandon was a good way to eradicate it.

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    I’m not sure this is a good idea. Surely this sort of messaging is better aimed at independants / floating voters? You’d think that any republicans who see this are going to go straight into “REEEEE DEMONCRATS SEE WHAT THEY DO THEY KILL BABIES REEEEE” mode and dig deeper into their mindset.

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      Eh—everyone already knows where Biden stands on abortion. Avoiding the issue suggests that he’s embarrassed or ashamed of his position—it concedes the moral high ground to the Republicans.

      Lots of voters prefer a confident candidate to one who agrees with them on everything.

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        Mmm. Makes sense I guess, you’re saying the intent of these ads is less to appeal to rep voters, but more to show dem voters that Biden is serious about codifying Roe?

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          I think it’s aimed at swing voters—the kind who voted for both Obama and Trump.

          They’re generally lukewarm on the issues, but are attracted to candidates who seem self-assured and confident. The candidates in the debate are likely to be anything but, given their fear of saying anything that might anger Trump’s core voters—so this ad will give viewers an obvious contrast.

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      The ad is designed to keep the abortion issue talked about. Have you noticed how Republicans have gone radio-silent on abortion? They don’t want it brought up. This is a smart move.

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        Ding. The SCOTUS ruling is wildly unpopular. Republicans literally just took one of their cornerstone issues – abortion – and said, “Nah, we’re done with this,” and handed it to the Democrats to use in elections for several cycles.

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        “We know we’ve spent decades harping on abortion but you need to stop thinking about it now. Oooh look over there shiny!” That’s why these ads are being run and I agree it’s a good idea. Maybe some additional ads that are like white trailer park looking people talking about how an abortion saved their life or how their baby was stillborn so they had an “abortion” and how traumatic it was and how much more traumatic it would have been to have to carry to term.

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        They are the dog that caught the car. I remember some maga mom being absolutely enraged when the abortion thing leaked out from the corrupted too-conservative court. My wife asked her…but WHY are you so angry that they are going to overturn Roe? Isn’t that what you want?

        This woman screwed up her face and screamed that liberals were going to use it against Republicans. Yeah, no kidding. But it’s what you guys WANTED. For about 50 years. WTAF.

        This is the one group that seems perpetually pissed off about everything, all the time, even getting things they wanted and asked for, like tearing up the rights of women, and naming a special counsel for Hunter Biden…who can maintain that level of rage all the time? It cannot be good for your health.

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          This is the one group that seems perpetually pissed off about everything, all the time, even getting things they wanted and asked for

          This is so true! One thing I’ve always loved about American liberal culture (yeah, I know; we’re not really liberal here) is that we laugh at our mistakes. For most of my life, Cable and Late Night comedy shows have been helping us find the humor in the things we would otherwise be enraged about. I feel like it has helped me stay sane all these years. I kind of feel bad for the Fox News-watching conservatives who spend their days oscillating from outrage to fear to outrage again. It must be hell on their cardiovascular health.

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      The ad isn’t aimed to convert anyone, it’s meant to feed into the social media narrative. Entrenched Republicans aren’t changing their vote, but it could spark interest in younger voters who don’t go to Fox News but read about the campaign.

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      There are plenty of radical centrists who will watch this shit because they feel obligated to hear out fascists just in case one of them actually manages to form a cogent thought.

      These are the goldfish voters. If they do not have their knowledge and beliefs reaffirmed every 27 seconds, they revert to a blank political slate. The GOP has figured it out - these people are the reason why “bumper sticker politics” is so effective. The goldfish phenomenon perfectly explains every paradox and confounding effect in the history of political odds-making - that there is a shockingly large contingent of voters out there whose entire political identity is effectively defined by the most recent political message they attentively received.

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      I was like 50/50 on voting for Biden before i saw this. Even though this ad is definetly not ideated by Biden (for sure just a campaign manager or a 20 year old intern), standing up for abortion rights front and center on fox will likely make it more so like an 80/20 if I actually like the outcome of it. Will probably be one of the more memorable things from his career for me.

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    It is an interesting idea. I like the idea of (finally) going on the offensive, but this doesn’t really attack any GOP ideas or candidates.

    I do love the idea of embracing the “let’s go brandon” slogan. I just saw some idiots with that bumper sticker the other day. I would love to see Dems take over that slogan and make it seem like all the “let’s go brandon” merchandise is actually on the side of Biden. Unfortunately I think only a small group of people (those who follow memes) really understand what the heck dark brandon even is. But at least the Dems are trying something different and trying to get ahead of certain things, rather than the usual Democrat response which is nothing.

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      It’s an attempt at doing exactly what Republicans do. They steal a word or phrase and change it to mean something horrible. Democrats really need.to.start playing stupid games too, unfortunately, because the country is losing hard right now.

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        I saw a guy at an Incubus concert in liberal AF Massachusetts wearing a “Lets go Brandon” shirt last year, and I’m still not sure if he was talking about Biden or Brandon Boyd.

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          You said

          this doesn’t really attack any GOP ideas

          But it does. It directly counters their anti-abortion stance.

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            He’s stating that he supports abortion rights. That’s not an actual attack on what Republicans believe.

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                But he’s not attacking their stance. He’s not saying to them that they should change their minds because of this, this and that reason. He is simply stating that he (Biden) supports abortion rights and that’s probably aimed at the tiny percent of Fox News watchers that might actually support rights - specifically Republican women, I would guess. There are some (a small number, but still some) Republicans who see that this latest push by their own party against abortion is a bridge too far.

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    Funny…. But I don’t see this as a good use of advertising.

    You’re not swaying anyone visiting the site, and may instead be invigorating R voters.

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      I think the majority of Republicans (women at least) agree with protecting the right to abortion last I saw it polled. There are many Republicans who could be swayed on this issue who use Fox (for some stupid reason). However, I see it mote about creating this article than actually swaying fox voters. It’s about the meme being spread through other sources because it’s funny that it’s on Fox. It’s cheap advertising all over the internet because of irony.

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      I think this is particularly a good use of advertisement since conservatives would be more likely to spread the advertisements message via bitching about Biden being openly Satanic or w/e

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      Crap, you’re right.

      Better not vote for them and just accept having no abortion rights until a viable third party shows up.

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        Better not vote for them and just accept having no abortion rights until a viable third party shows up.

        Well…if you’re not voting for a 3rd party…you’re accepting not having abortion rights.

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        You’re right too, it’s better to vote for them and… still accept having no abortion rights

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          It’s a dumb take because you didn’t suggest any alternative and it sounds like you’re just bitching for the sake of it.

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            They’re right though. There is no alternative because of the two party system. Obviously republicans aren’t an alternative, so what else is there? It’s a very frustrating situation that makes you lose any sort of faith of the future of the political system.

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      All they needed to do during that time would be to have all three branches of government, with 60+ Senators, and every Democrat would need to be on board with the legislation and felt it was necessary to pass while RvW was being used to uphold the right without legislation.

      There was no appealing to Republicans during that time on abortion because they were all lock step in opposing any Dem actions, especially things like this, and the system is already set up to make it very difficult for a small majority to pass anything. After a couple decades of RvW being established, why put in the effort to fail when there were other things that were not already set by precedent which would only go away if conservatives stacked the court with people who make up rulings out of nonsense?

      While the Dems come across as wet noodles because they are allowed to not agree, this is something that was impossible for them to pull off at a national level due to Republican obstruction and abortion being one of the main Republican topics that did not allow their members to compromise in any way.

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        What’s the point of a political party that doesn’t vote in lockstep on major issues? Why should I support them if they can’t be counted on to deliver?

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      So like… yeah, sure, that’s true. At the same time overturning a judicial precedent this well established is an absolute first, and public support for Roe v Wade started relatively low and has been steadily growing since then.

      So when you’ve got all kinds of immediate, pressing issues, why waste a narrow political margin on alienating a big swathe of voters by publicly confirming a right that everyone already has?

      I can’t fault any individual administration for not focusing on this… I can fault the voters, though.

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      Yeah, but if that was done they could use it to threaten people into voting for milquetoast moderates…

      And it’s a pretty safe bet a lot of them didn’t actually want to pass it for personal reasons anyways.

      We need to normalize a competitive primary, otherwise people can go decades between choosing the incumbent or a republican for state/Senate seats.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The “Dark Brandon” ads will be displayed on FoxNews.com beginning midnight Tuesday running through Thursday morning “highlighting President Biden’s commitment to fighting a national abortion ban and codify Roe,” the campaign said.

    Fox News is set to air Wednesday night’s first 2024 GOP debate and make it available to stream for free on its website.

    The president’s campaign has also commissioned a mobile billboard circling the debate site in Milwaukee alternating between four ads, all using the Dark Brandon imaging and taglines.

    Merchandise featuring the laser-eyed Biden has been popular among his supporters, with the campaign saying it accounts for more than half of online purchase revenue.

    “Only Dark Brandon knows where he’ll appear,” Biden deputy campaign manager Rob Flaherty told People magazine, which first reported the Fox News ad buy.

    “It also speaks to the sort of strided, swaggy Dark Brandon personality of, ‘Yeah, we’re going to go on Fox News and talk about protecting and restoring Roe.


    The original article contains 269 words, the summary contains 157 words. Saved 42%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    How exactly would he do that? With the current Supreme Court I can’t see how anything short of a constitutional amendment being upheld. And he’s not going to get 2/3 of Congress to pass an amendment.