• famousringo@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Crap, you’re right.

      Better not vote for them and just accept having no abortion rights until a viable third party shows up.

      • chakan2@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Better not vote for them and just accept having no abortion rights until a viable third party shows up.

        Well…if you’re not voting for a 3rd party…you’re accepting not having abortion rights.

      • Ado@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        You’re right too, it’s better to vote for them and… still accept having no abortion rights

        • ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee
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          It’s a dumb take because you didn’t suggest any alternative and it sounds like you’re just bitching for the sake of it.

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            They’re right though. There is no alternative because of the two party system. Obviously republicans aren’t an alternative, so what else is there? It’s a very frustrating situation that makes you lose any sort of faith of the future of the political system.

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      All they needed to do during that time would be to have all three branches of government, with 60+ Senators, and every Democrat would need to be on board with the legislation and felt it was necessary to pass while RvW was being used to uphold the right without legislation.

      There was no appealing to Republicans during that time on abortion because they were all lock step in opposing any Dem actions, especially things like this, and the system is already set up to make it very difficult for a small majority to pass anything. After a couple decades of RvW being established, why put in the effort to fail when there were other things that were not already set by precedent which would only go away if conservatives stacked the court with people who make up rulings out of nonsense?

      While the Dems come across as wet noodles because they are allowed to not agree, this is something that was impossible for them to pull off at a national level due to Republican obstruction and abortion being one of the main Republican topics that did not allow their members to compromise in any way.

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        1 year ago

        What’s the point of a political party that doesn’t vote in lockstep on major issues? Why should I support them if they can’t be counted on to deliver?

    • Badass_panda@lemmy.world
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      So like… yeah, sure, that’s true. At the same time overturning a judicial precedent this well established is an absolute first, and public support for Roe v Wade started relatively low and has been steadily growing since then.

      So when you’ve got all kinds of immediate, pressing issues, why waste a narrow political margin on alienating a big swathe of voters by publicly confirming a right that everyone already has?

      I can’t fault any individual administration for not focusing on this… I can fault the voters, though.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, but if that was done they could use it to threaten people into voting for milquetoast moderates…

      And it’s a pretty safe bet a lot of them didn’t actually want to pass it for personal reasons anyways.

      We need to normalize a competitive primary, otherwise people can go decades between choosing the incumbent or a republican for state/Senate seats.