• xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    They’re both liberal fascist states. One was put in place by nato after they realized they couldn’t just carve it up, the other was put in place by nato to oppose the first when they denied it membership.

    Stop deflecting and trying to place me in support or opposition to the members of this absolutely avoidable conflict and most importantly: stop defending nazis.

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      One was put in place by nato after they realized they couldn’t just carve it up

      Oh my sides I dare you to say that in Russia. Bring a stopwatch so you can time how long it takes for you to arrive in a prison camp in Siberia. The FSB doesn’t suffer that kind of talk, “Russia is controlled by its enemies” (from their POV. In reality Russia has exactly one enemy: Itself).

      this absolutely avoidable

      Absolutely avoidable, true: Russia could stop being imperialist and, for a change, and harkening back to Lenin’s times, focus on developing itself.

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        Okay first things first, I never said Russia was controlled by its enemies, second:

        This isn’t about my views on geopolitics, it’s about ohs you need to stop defending Nazis. Do that and we can have a wide ranging conversation about any number of topics.

        But first, stop defending Nazis!

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          I never defended Nazis, and you have yet to make an argument that doesn’t bog down to “I hate that /u/barsoap is right”. It’s you who’s trivialising the term.

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            I’m not trivializing anything.

            You are saying that azov battalion using the wolfsangel is not a nazi symbol.

            It’s a defense of Nazis because you’re providing cover for the spread of their ideology. You need to stop defending Nazis.

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              Ok you’ve got me. Now show me where Azov is spreading Nazi ideology. Post-2015. I’m waiting.

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                  1 year ago

                  It’s not a Nazi symbol. Are Motorhead fans Nazis because they wear Iron Crosses?

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                    What’s not a Nazi symbol, the wolfsangel (which you agreed was a Nazi symbol in the context of a right wing militia just a few days ago) or the black sun (whose removal you claimed was semiotic denazification enough)?

                    Instead of making me dredge up terrible things you’ve said, why not just stop defending Nazis?