They just passed the law and somehow they already have weed in stock?

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    The law doesn’t go into effect overnight. Laws go into effect months out, so businesses have tons of times to plan. Also, it’s not hard when there’s already a legal distribution network. It’s not the the stores are growing the stuff out in their backyard

    Edit: Ohio voted to legalize in November 2023

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        There are many places where it’s already legal to grow. But yes, some states allow that. Not sure exactly whether allowed growing or if they just imported it. Takes a while to build a business relationship with a grower but not like forever.

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          They can’t import because that would involve transporting the product over state lines, which is interstate commerce, and in federal jurisdiction, where it’s still illegal. (At least, they can’t import legally, or document any importation.)

          They probably … uh… fax or teleport? seeds to new grow operations that get set up between the law’s passage and implementation. I hear that stuff grows fast – like a weed!

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        Does Ohio not have medical marijuana for sale? Typically these stores just switch to retail + medical or open a second branch to keep them separate depending on how the state laws are written.

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          And they could also import from neighboring states while their in house stuff grows depending on the laws.

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              Well, federal law prevents it period. It’s only an executive policy of making that avenue of enforcement a lower priority that keeps it from being a “thing”.

              Under presidents who have had more of an interest in curtailing it, it’s been upheld that regardless of state law the federal prohibition takes precedence.

              So if the feds wanted to mess with it, they wouldn’t be waiting for it to cross state lines, they’d just enforce the law as written.

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          Not sure about Ohio, but I believe they often don’t let medical marijuana and recreational switch due to requirements that boil down to a need to limit and document the number of medical plants cultivated.

          It’s not explicitly forbidden, just not able to be transferred in that way between inventory systems due to regulatory requirements.

          Kinda like how hand sanitizer is just vodka with a gelling agent in it, but during the hand sanitizer shortage there needed to be emergency orders to let distilleries make hand sanitizer. Same substance, same or higher standards, but different licensing and regulatory frameworks and different licensing and regulatory agencies.

          In a few years once the various agencies have gotten in the swing of things they’ll probably make some updates to simplify the laws.

          Until then, you’ll probably see occasional supply issues with recreational while there’s plenty of medical.

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          They were medical and at least in my area all the dispensary that got a licenses were previously medical and just opened their doors to everyone. They’re selling the same stuff they sold medically previously (or at least getting retail product from the same growers)

          Hitting more road blocks now as mayors are annoyingly pushing back with mandates at the local level.

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    The answer is a lot more straightforward than most of your responses here:

    Medical marijuana was already legal in Ohio, so it was already around – those growers/distributors/shops simply ramped up their operations to get ready for the wider market.

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    From the State Medical Board of Ohio:

    On September 8, 2016, House Bill 523, legalized medical marijuana in Ohio.

    From a June 2024 AP article:

    Recreational pot sales are nearing reality in Ohio … The state Division of Cannabis Control began accepting applications [on 7 June] for new dual licenses that will allow existing medical marijuana dispensaries to also sell nonmedical cannabis.

    While states with medical cannabis generally issue regulations for which patients are eligible and which doctors can prescribe, the products themselves are mostly subject to meeting lab tests for containing what they say on the label, and distribution in child-resistant packaging. Otherwise, the same stock for medical cannabis customers is about the same as for recreational cannabis.

    Hence, while it might be surprising that a new cannabis dispensary could appear out of nowhere – even without a preceding medical cannabis dispensary at the same location – the wholesaling, backend infrastructure, and vendor network may already have existed, so propping up a storefront would be the relatively easy part.

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    Holy shit. I just looked up a place thats closer than where I usually go, but those prices are higher than Snoop on his way home from Paris!

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      Give it time for the novelty to wear off, then hope the state can navigate the impending rebound without too much consolidation.

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        So, taking a closer look, they weren’t as bad as the first few items I saw, but the cheapest was $10 a gram ($6/g for the one strain they had a 200g bag)

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      That’s how it always goes but after a year or two the prices hit rock bottom once the market is flooded as long as there aren’t weird restrictions on licensing.

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        A dispensary near me just got in 200mg edibles for $3. Both me and the attendant were sort of suspicious of it (new brand, new product), and I stuck with my usual brands, which vary between $12 and $20 for the same quantity.
        But 2 years ago, my ‘usual’ was $18-$25 for 100mg.

        They’re definitely racing to the bottom, and we’ve already had a few local grow ops go under as bigger outfits are taking advantage of economy of scale/better planning.

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        Is that why I can find some brands in Colorado and not in Michigan? Or are there just really that many brands?

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          Im not sure, but based on what I’ve seen, I think different states each have their own brands. They are probably all owned by the same parent companies though.

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    I’m actually surprised Ohio made it this far without their legislature pulling a fast one and bullshitting their way out of it somehow.

    Lots of national businesses have headquarters in Ohio. Even where weed isn’t legal it’s like every other business “can’t find employees” because they refuse to drop thc from their drug tests so now they’re on the brink of collapse. I’m glad but surprised whatever lobbying efforts were probably made weren’t enough.

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      Oh they fucking tried a LOT. The public at large, and a lot of the lobbying groups, kept up the pressure really well to get this through.

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      There is at least one longtime Ohio business that’s very pro-cannabis. The CEO of Scott’s Miracle-Gro has been outspoken about it for years. Of course it’s profitable – they will gladly sell you fertilizer and accessories!

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    It’s not uncommon to seek exemption paperwork.

    Businesses have a lot of flexibility that’s not afforded to your standard private citizen typically.