I mean yeah you can say it’s just a proxy war, but if a large nation supporting a small nation during a time of war makes it a proxy war, then the American Revolution was a proxy war between Britain and France. Proxy wars can still be liberatory, just like this one, where Ukraine is literally fighting for it’s freedom and survival.
if a large nation supporting a small nation during a time of war makes it a proxy war, then the American Revolution was a proxy war between Britain and France.
Yes. It was an extension of the Anglo-French Wars which had been raging since the 1100s.
Ukraine is literally fighting for it’s freedom and survival
Given the enormous war-time debts assumed by the national government, that ship has already sailed. They’re fighting for the opportunity to be a NATO occupied state rather than a Russian satellite. And they’re most likely going to end this war thoroughly balkinized in either event, as the ethnic cleansing on each end of the country has weeded out anyone with divided loyalties.
Ukraine, as a continguous going concern, has about as much of a chance as Gaza or Sudan.
All your talk makes it sound like you think they are making a “wrong” decision. Is that true, and if so, what would you do if you ran that country being annexed and bombed?
Ukraine didn’t decide on war, Russia did. Also, suing for peace doesn’t really seem to be working for Palestine, does it? At what point would you be willing to fight for what you think is right? Would you risk your life to protect your loved ones from a murderer? I would.
I mean yeah you can say it’s just a proxy war, but if a large nation supporting a small nation during a time of war makes it a proxy war, then the American Revolution was a proxy war between Britain and France. Proxy wars can still be liberatory, just like this one, where Ukraine is literally fighting for it’s freedom and survival.
Yes. It was an extension of the Anglo-French Wars which had been raging since the 1100s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-French_Wars#1700s
Given the enormous war-time debts assumed by the national government, that ship has already sailed. They’re fighting for the opportunity to be a NATO occupied state rather than a Russian satellite. And they’re most likely going to end this war thoroughly balkinized in either event, as the ethnic cleansing on each end of the country has weeded out anyone with divided loyalties.
Ukraine, as a continguous going concern, has about as much of a chance as Gaza or Sudan.
Goodbye vatnik.
All your talk makes it sound like you think they are making a “wrong” decision. Is that true, and if so, what would you do if you ran that country being annexed and bombed?
War is always the wrong decision.
I’ll ask the Palestinians. But it appears you try to sue for peace, so more of your population isn’t massacred.
Ukraine didn’t decide on war, Russia did. Also, suing for peace doesn’t really seem to be working for Palestine, does it? At what point would you be willing to fight for what you think is right? Would you risk your life to protect your loved ones from a murderer? I would.
If someone starts dropping 500 lb bombs in my neighborhood, I’m leaving. The only reason you stay and fight is if you’re trapped.
Ukraine and Russia are each engaged in mass forces conscription. That’s what is driving this war.
To get them to safety, absolutely. But that’s but where the hundreds of billions in foreign aid has been going.
What’s driving this war is Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Don’t bring that vatnik bullshit in here.
Why do we even need guns if we can just sue people? You sir really do have the cure for the 2nd amendment people.
So if the solution to help Palestine is pressuring their oppressor to stop, then the solution to help Ukraine is…?