Don’t misconstrue antizionism (and idk anti genocide?) as antisemitism. The two are different. There’s also lot of messy alt-left garbage on here that’s likely astroturfed/in bad faith, you have to ignore those as well.
Yeah, im sure they exist. But the “ree antisemitism!!1” thing has been the most common reflexive defense I’ve seen any time the topic comes up, where any valid criticism of “hey maybe Israel doesn’t need to be flattening the entirety of Gaza and starving an entire race to death” is dismissed as “Oh you hate jews”. The US government, colleges, and cities trying to shut down protests have also branded it as such, when it’s really not.
I think it’s more the shocking number of people comfortable protesting alongside Hamas flags and people chanting “globalize the intifada” that makes Jewish people a little uncomfortable.
Anti zionism in 2024 is literally calling for the dismantlement of the Israeli state. I’m sorry, I’m not going to pretend like this a realistic solution to the current conflict, especially when there is an absolutely massive gap between that, and condemning Israeli treatment of Palestinians and condemning Israeli settlements. There is literally no reason to evoke this language if those things are your goals.
Don’t misconstrue antizionism (and idk anti genocide?) as antisemitism. The two are different. There’s also lot of messy alt-left garbage on here that’s likely astroturfed/in bad faith, you have to ignore those as well.
Which isn’t to say there can’t be leftist antisemites. But it does seem like a lot of anti genocide people are unjustly treated as antisemitic.
Yeah, im sure they exist. But the “ree antisemitism!!1” thing has been the most common reflexive defense I’ve seen any time the topic comes up, where any valid criticism of “hey maybe Israel doesn’t need to be flattening the entirety of Gaza and starving an entire race to death” is dismissed as “Oh you hate jews”. The US government, colleges, and cities trying to shut down protests have also branded it as such, when it’s really not.
I think it’s more the shocking number of people comfortable protesting alongside Hamas flags and people chanting “globalize the intifada” that makes Jewish people a little uncomfortable.
Left wing politics has had a long history of antisemitism.
Anti zionism in 2024 is literally calling for the dismantlement of the Israeli state. I’m sorry, I’m not going to pretend like this a realistic solution to the current conflict, especially when there is an absolutely massive gap between that, and condemning Israeli treatment of Palestinians and condemning Israeli settlements. There is literally no reason to evoke this language if those things are your goals.