Yeah I heard that argument from the “right” and “left” yeah people would gamble all their money away then what.
Its basic income, if you want more go produce something. But we should treat people like adults and stop treating them like children.
If he’d only written the first verse, I might believe it.
SLAMMED! Feels like most headlines are written by 12 year olds these days
It makes it easy to know which articles I don’t need to bother reading
It’s felt that way for a decade
I find it odd that that singer doesn’t understand his fan-base.
Yeah, it seems a bit strange. At least he’s not a grifter (yet). Or, maybe he’s just really bad at grifting.
His politics and messaging is inconsistent. He’s got Reagan-era tax and welfare talking points mixed in with qanon pedophile conspiracy lines. Then makes a video where it sounds like he thinks he’s a centrist. I guess the Overton window really has shifted, lol.
It’s not hard to imagine how someone within the conservative cesspit would end up with a worldview that’s a complete mess.
It takes education that not everybody has access to to see through the junk science of neoliberalism, transphobia, climate denial and anti-vax. It takes context that not everybody is exposed to to realise that friends and family who have always been good to you, may not actually be good people.
I have a small amount of sympathy for him. His life and feelings were being used to push a far-right agenda that he’s clearly not comfortable with, making him the latest target of abuse. He’s got more in common with the LGBT community than he might want to admit.
But my sympathy dries up quickly. He holds views that are deeply damaging to society and didn’t seem to have a problem when it was other people on the receiving end.
If he can learn from this and shake off his other shitty views, I’d have some respect for him but until then the enemy of my enemy isn’t inherently my friend.
He holds views that are deeply damaging to society and didn’t seem to have a problem when it was other people on the receiving end.
What views? Everyone in this thread is being super vague
qanon pedophile conspiracy lines?
dude. jeffrey epstien had a private island where they raped children. that’s not a conspiracy, that’s what happened.
Was bizarre to me that the first NPR story on this song focused on the line referencing Epstein being a far right conspiracy. Everyone I’ve interacted with thinks everyone photographed with him or Ghislaine partakes.
I heard that too! I had to pause the podcast. Usually NPR politics is somewhat fair, but that seemed like a stretch
I don’t listen to country: can someone say what he said that’s so controversial? As I understand he was making illusions to Jeffery Epstein who is a confirmed pedo
His politics amount to Jews running the world and queers being child molesters so don’t expect much in the way of critical thinking.
Maybe it’s not his “fan base” that he doesn’t understand, but rather than annoying 10% butt-hurts that always cause trouble.
I mean I don’t have any fans and I don’t understand because I’m actually pretty cool.
Everyone just keeps saying I haven’t met the right group yet but like there are too many groups left.
Ignoring the whole welfare lyric for a moment, I think this experience ended up being a hard lesson for this young songwriter.
To borrow a line from Bluey - “…when you put something beautiful out into the world, it’s no longer yours, really.”
People need to remember that this guy did not have a lot of success before this song. It’s a breakout hit from an unknown artist
This song is honestly amazing with Dale Gribble AI vocals. It feels like it was from a parallel universe where King Of The Hill never stopped making episodes.
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The lyrics could have been written by an AI it’s so generic.
Upon an honest look at this song i see nothing wrong with its lyrics
I feel fooled by an internet wave
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Ootl… Who is this red head of the woods and what did they do?
Tldr: some no name dude wrote a country song. One of the lyrics shits on welfare recipients. Conservative hogs lose their mind and his song hits top charts. He comes out backpedaling and claiming we all “interpretted the lyrics wrong” and welfare recipients are victims not leeches. Now everyone is confused.
Can’t forget the part where his personal YouTube channel also has an extensive watch list (“videos to make your noggin’ bigger” or something similar) full of full-on anti-semitic conspiracy theories. Such as Jews secretly orchestrating 9/11.
This is an important detail of which I was unaware. I was almost gonna credit him for snubbing his nose at privileged politicians, but now I can write him off again.
The song title rich men north of Richmond is also likely a dog whistle for other crappy bigots like this idiot.
What’s the dog whistle? Washington DC is north of Richmond VA.
Richmond was one of the northernmost slave owning towns during the civil war.
Interesting. Thank you for the context
It’s wild that people are so mad about the fudge rounds line. Poor people are often forced into situations where they eat unhealthy foods. Why should food aid programs help fund American obesity rather than tackle it? Is that not the same as declaring tomatoes a vegetable so we can keep serving pizza to to schoolkids?
It doesn’t help fund obesity, it helps feed people.
People who live in a food desert and can only access bad food.
You don’t ask the “keep people from starvation” fund to also be the “fix systemic class based wage structures” fund
Oddly I’m not bothered by that line so much. I’m more disappointed with the title and the chorus. Richmond, being the capital of Virginia was a border state of the Civil War. Yes technically Washington DC is very much north of Richmond, but I think the song resonates more with a certain crowd due to the former reason vs the latter.
The song could have been better IMO if it targeted LOCAL governments by state, instead of trying to blame Rich Men North of Richmond. As if Rich Men South of Richmond wasn’t a thing…
i’m not buying it. Sure he could be a confederate apologist but if you are writing a song about some rich old dudes in DC screwing the rest of us over its some hard rhymes. When I heard the song he pronounced the word “rich men” and “richmond” nearly identically. I was like what does “rich men north of rich men” mean, then later I heard “richmond north of richmond”
Looking at the lyrics he was complaining that we have people in the streets with no food to eat while there are obese people getting fat on welfare. Sounds like he thinks government is incompetent.
I saw a stat years ago that if we took all the money we spent each year on welfare and just gave the people those programs were trying to help straight cash we would have 5x the amount needed to push them all over the poverty line.
I saw a stat years ago that if we took all the money we spent each year on welfare and just gave the people those programs were trying to help straight cash we would have 5x the amount needed to push them all over the poverty line.
*Something, something can’t give money to poor people. Something, something, give money to rich people. *
The bullshit argument that is all about hating and punishing poor people. With nice extra boot lick the rich.
I don’t think Virginia was technically a border state in the civil war? MD. WV, and KY were southern states blanketing Virginia. When the government moved through Baltimore, didn’t they have to point federal hill and Fort McHenry cannons at Baltimore to stop the city from rioting against the government army?
I’m bothered by it because he’s just repeating Raegan. At least try to convince me you’re a populist, come on.
I think it’s just as much that it’s good stamps buying the junk food. The point is he’s mad poor people are making a poor choice. I don’t really see any sympathy for the fudge round eater.
“Well, God, if you’re 5-foot-3 and you’re 300 pounds, taxes ought not to pay for our bags of fudge rounds.”
The implication is that if to pay for your own food, be as fat as you can, but if you are poor you better act how other people think you should act.
The point seems to be less that poor people are making a poor choice, and more that his money is being used to facilitate that poor choice.
People often have the idea that “it’s my money being taxed, why shouldn’t I have a say?” And I can at least sympathize with that.
His statement doesnt make sense. He needs to own up to what he made.
Interesting to follow all the Oliver Anthony stuff.
Sabby Sabs on Oliver Anthony: Oliver Anthony ATTACKED By Partisan Politics (clip) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQZGPv4m6bc
The Jimmy Dore Show on Oliver Anthony: Working Class Anthem Attacked By Establishment As “QAnon!” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g77osCokywc
Seems like a cool guy
Sure but I doubt whoever wrote this aong actually intended for the listener to have a reasonable takeaway.
Hahaha. Why a fucking cuck. Now watch how republicans use your song - for free - to rile up dipshits like you
