Oh I’m well aware. Hexbear seems to be the biggest hive of bastards I’ve encountered on all of the federated instances. Every hexbear post I see is either super right wing or just insanely cringe My Little Pony type stuff.
Just a point of clarification: you think the USSR was a far-right regime?
Liberalism hasn’t been left-wing for the past 150 years at this point
Stop sucking off Winnie.
Again, they are “left wingers” supporting far right regimes. Its not that big a consipracy
See, this is exactly what I mean by “I understand them so little that they must be the opposition in disguise”
If you tried at all, youd understand that they’re position on “modern day Russia and China” is based on the idea of critical support. They evaluate policy decisions against “does this bring the working class closer to solidarity or not”.
I.e. on the Ukraine war, their position is basically “U.S. Involvement in any war is a net-negative to worker solidarity in the country of question”. None there support Russia’s invasion, but they think Americas involvement spells the end of any socialist coalition to begin with.
But again, “I understand them so little they must be a part of the opposition”. They have a different (definitively leftist) understanding of the war than you do. Doesn’t make them right-wing.
Y’all have nothing better to do than spew state dept propaganda?
There really are a lot of commies on here aren’t there?
Well not real ones, obviously, but like 15 year olds whose parents work late. Lots of those types of communists.
Lol, I’ve been wondering how to describe them…
Like, I have a buddy who’s a communist, and we agree on everything. I come on Lemmy and say I don’t agree with the most extreme forms of socialism and communism, though, and I get straight up shit on and banned as if I said something incredibly offensive.
The tankies from hexbear are not real communists. Just right wing trolls.
I can’t keep track of this one-dimensional political spectrum people keep using. I thought tankies, socialists, communists, and liberals were all considered left wing, but I keep hearing things about some of these groups being on the right instead.
When can we upgrade to the political tesseract?
Hexbear is more or less a 4Chan equivalent, sharing the same memes and single image posting behavior. They exist to make left leaning people look bad.
Their supposed communism is equivalent to start an argument online with “as a black man”
Just a bunch of right wing trolls.
Tankies are right wing authoritarians, and don’t believe any of the left wing political they use as a vaneer. Its like how the Nazis were National "Socialists "
Theres a reason they support modern day Russia and China, two notoriously far right nations
This is the take that bothers me the most, as if the most aggressive and outspoken faction of any group exist only to drag the more respectable members down by association.
I would be one thing to say, “I don’t understand that group”, but it’s quite remarkable to say, “I understand that group so little that they must be the opposition in disguise”
It’s blatant though? They use right wing talking points for everything and it’s all dog whistles?
“Geopolitics exists as a binary, and on some issues they agree with the opposite binary from me”.
Worse actually, “they might agree with me on one issue but they disagree on another, so they must be pretending to agree with me to begin with”
This is the take that bothers me the most, as if the most aggressive and outspoken faction of any group exist only to drag the more respectable members down by association.
Eh, only a small minority of hexbears are fascists, but almost all hexbears tolerate fascists. All the fascists have to do is walk in and say “NATO is bad, Ukraine is bad, libs are bad, vote for Trump because he is a big lovable goofball” and the other hexbears are like aight let’s own the shitlibs.
only a small minority of hexbears are fascists, but almost all hexbears tolerate fascists
A huge portion of hexbear users are trans or otherwise LGBTQ. Ask them what they think fascists want to do to them. Fascists also massacre socialists — often with American support, as in Indonesia, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Chile, El Salvador, Argentina, and Bolivia. Ask them how they feel about this. Hexbear users do hold some complex views on topics like China and Russia, but they have reasons for this and would tell you if you asked. You should consider talking to them, instead of making things up about them in an authoritative tone of voice. You’ll be hard-pressed to find a hexbear user who doesn’t want Trump dead or in jail.
There’s not many all-in on authoritarianism that aren’t extreme left or right economically.
The political compass is better than a one-dimensional spectrum, but it’s literally twice as complicated.
You can pretty safely plot a symmetrical U shaped line running through the political compass and find almost everybody. That’s why one-axis works well for describing the political climate of the USA, it’s mostly in the right half of the political compass sitting on this line.
So tankies are very Communist (left) and necessarily very authoritarian to achieve their goals.
They represent the other half of the political compass that Americans usually do not see. So people on here frequently get confused when exposed to tankies.
And you also have the tankies talking about the Bernie-Sanders/AOC-types (found at the vertex of our U shape) as “right” because if you follow the U line, they would be.
Oh, they’re real – I’ve met several in person. It’s very rare they’re older than “young adult”.
So you think hexbear users sat around unfederated for 3 years and just pretended to be communists to each other?
First time on the internet?
Extreme left-wing ideology is indistinguishable from extreme right-wing ideology. They both want to kill lots of people, and if you aren’t on their side you’re on their shit list.
And also CCP LLM bots.
Doesn’t matter for your sort. Whether they be card carrying members or teenagers, all comrades scare your kind equally <3
Go back to your swamp
Yes
The irony of saying this when the students say Tiananmen were literally protesting against the CCP for not being communist enough.
Go on. What’s ironic about my statement and what you just brought up? Why do you think me saying that there are a lot of commies here, has anything to do with my view on what happened in Tiananmen Square?
Those were the workers iirc
? your comment makes no fucking sense. Why do you people try SO HARD to have a dissenting but relevant opinion constantly? its tiring, go fuck yourself.
There’s nothing ironic about it at all.
Additionally…
Uyghurs when they’re
detainedsent to aconcentration campfree job training program:Chuckles. I’m
in dangerimmensely grateful to the glorious Chinese Communist party for graciously offering me this tremendous opportunity.Notable things that happened in 1989 in China:
May 13 – Mikhail Gorbachev visits China, the first Soviet leader to do so since the 1960s.
June 4 – Absolutely nothing happened on this day.
June 24 – Jiang Zemin becomes General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party.
5 December – Li Keran, a renowned contemporary Chinese painter, diesPeople keep going on about the painter’s death which is disrespectful to his work. It’s good of the government to censor mentions of the ‘1989 incident’ to protect his dignity.
+3 social credit
Sweet thanks
I’m saving this cuz I wanna see if anyone defends the CCP
Bonus points if they’re from .lemmygrad
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How could they be? Your instance is censoring them.
Good.
Oh no it’s cool, they love authoritarian censorship irl, so this is their jam.
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Taught**
- teach: (present tense) incorrect in your comment cuz u real beeg dum
- taught: (past tense) correct in your comment, if you want to know if someone previously gave them the knowledge
- teaches: (3rd person singular present tense) correct in your comment if you want to know if someone gives them this knowledge in the future.
do you even participle bro? I feel bad after this, I’ll buy you a tshirt, do you want “singular for life” or did you have a better idea?
Anyone who thinks they can dictate a “proper” language is an entitled fool. Linguists literally laugh at you
This same dude came into a programming subreddit earlier and got dragged for their shitty uninformed opinions there too. I’d say they’re a troll, but they got big mad and deleted their comments after a while, so I think they’re just an edgy teenager or something.
man if the CCP catches you, just hope you have some condition that makes your organs undesirable… at least that way you can starve in the mines for however long you hold out, instead of going straight to the organ farm…
BuT aMeRiCa iS iDeNtIcAl
Just tell em you recently had Fukushima fish lol
Also I heard they eat babies.
tanks brually killed students fighting for democracy.
Or translated to Chinese: ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ students ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ for ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
Students fighting for democracy
Wait… are you calling China under Mao a Democracy? That’s laughable even from a Lemmygrad poster.
More propaganda from lemmygrad, how nice
is Cuba a far-right regime? They just passed the most comprehensive pro-LGBTQ legislation package on the planet.
No? Where on earth did i suggest they were.
Modern Russia and China, however, are incredibly right winning, which hexbear users support full throatedly
Go ask them for their opinions about Russia and China. You’ll get unanimous agreement that Putin is a homophobic capitalist reactionary and Russia is not a socialist or left-wing state. For China, you’ll get disagreements, but most of the takes will be pretty nuanced either way. Some believe Deng’s reforms were necessary to avoid economic strangulation, others are deeply suspicious of the direction China is headed.
Im sorry, but my opinion on them has come directly from talking to them. They have on every single occasion supported Putin in particular
