On roads with a 30mph maximum, 50% of car drivers break the law, says the annual DfT report on speed limit compliance.

Statistics published today by the U.K. Department for Transport (DfT) show that in 2022 85% of the car drivers in Great Britain broke the law by driving faster than the speed limit in 20mph zones. On roads with a 30mph maximum, 50% of car drivers broke the law, reveals the annual DfT report on speed limit compliance.

The measurements are based on speed data from a sample of Automatic Traffic Counters (ATCs) around the country. These exclude locations where external factors might restrict driver behavior, such as at junctions, on hills, beside sharp bends or where speed cameras are visible, says the DfT report.

  • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukOPEnglish
    4·
    1 year ago

    There are quite a few caveats in there, like it was usually through roads with no traffic calming measures and they’re often the ones I see people get narked about complying with. I do think some of these should be reconsidered as 30mph.

    • Syldon@feddit.ukEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      20mph zones are usually created because of an issue. Either idiots speeding repetitively or some poor sod being hit by a speeding car.

        • MidgePhoto@photog.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          @wewbull @Syldon
          If by speeding you mean 35 in a 30 zone, then will the drivers who know their journey is urgent and important, as are try, and that they are more skillful than those around them, drive 15mph above the limit, or 5mph?

          They’ll stand out rather more if the former, and have a likelihood of killing a hit pedestrian or cyclist reduced by the change if the latter.

          I suspect the chap recently apprehended for 61 in a 30 zone past children might not change, yes.

        • Syldon@feddit.ukEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          You are missing the point that speed limits are imposed because of the history of that road or type of road. Councils have a duty of care and must be seen to apply it.

          London council was fined because a young child died with asthma. The parent sued because she was not made aware of the problem. She claimed there was not enough information regarding air quality. This is why you see ULEZ in the London area. If some poor kid is hurt by a car and they cannot prove the driver was speeding, then you have to assume the speed limit is too high. This is the culture we have adopted to protect ourselves from libel suites. The speed limit is not applied to piss you off, it is for the protection of others who use the road.

          If this is unacceptable to you then write to your council and tell them that you will accept any liability claims for that road if they up the speed limit. You may also need to convince the people who live there, and send their kids out across that road.

    • essteeyou@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      1 year ago

      Make them 30mph and then 85% of people will break the new speed limit. Keep it low and at least their speed is likely to be lower.

      Edit: This is not true as far as I can tell. Sorry.

      • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukOPEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        Yeah they cover that in the report:

        On roads with a 30mph maximum, 50% of car drivers broke the law

        I mean that’s still too high and there’s no need for it.

        edit: I presume the thinking is that if want 30mph, then you say 20 and the average speed is then under 30, which makes sense on small, narrow side streets but less so on the through roads they were surveying.