cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3804525
Wow, things have changed since I last posted in /c/fediverse. Here are the top five most active instances based on monthly active users:
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3804525
Wow, things have changed since I last posted in /c/fediverse. Here are the top five most active instances based on monthly active users:
I wish lemm.ee would block Hexbear. I’m all for socialism and whatnot but those people are nuts. They make MAGAts look good.
:pigpoop: :lib:
God I am glad that emojis are broken right now. I never want to see more poopy pig balls, especially from people who lib is the far right.
liberals have universally allied with fascists over communists. the liberals in the Weimer Republic put Hitler in power, to give but one example. Churchill admired Hitler.
Both liberals and fascists agree that capitalism is the bee’s knees, they agree that most things should be privatized, they agree that people must be exploited by an elite. There’s a common saying - “If you scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds,” meaning that the second you exert even the slightest violence towards liberals or threaten to do so, they suddenly turn into fascist monsters, seemingly out of nowhere! Macron in France is a good current-day example - the riots have prompted him to turn France into ever more of a police state in which the pigs have unbelievable powers and surveillance. When America has been provoked by actions (many of which didn’t even actually happen, e.g. the Gulf of Tonkin, the Nayirah testimony, etc (or those that did happen but didn’t need to provoke an entire invasion in response, like 9/11) they start wars that kill hundreds of thousands, even millions.
It’s actually hard to describe exactly where liberals and fascists have opposing beliefs sometimes. I suppose where they differ is whether the cruelty should be more obscured or more out in the open? But you have to understand, the political dichotomy isn’t and has never been “liberal vs conservative”, because of those are on the side of the bourgeoisie in the class war. It’s communists vs capitalists, and liberal, conservatives, fascists, even the more left-wing people in the American establishment like Warren and Bernie are on the side of the capitalists. We hold fundamental political beliefs that differ from liberals. Liberals do not differ in fundamental political beliefs from fascists. It’s also why accusations of “horseshoe theory” are so hilarious to us.
Liberalism has always allied themselves with the far-right as an ideology that protects capital. We just know this because we read/study theory and have kept up with things going on around the world what with “liberals” and the “right” being quite similiar in views, especially recently. That being said,
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It’s funny how for those who Hexbear is to their left, always use the critique of “they’re crazy” then compare us to right wingers without fail.
Absolutely no actual critique and the typical liberal understanding of politics that “there are only two teams, and if you’re not on mine then you’re on theirs”
Please read a book
Thats because a lot of lemmy users see right wing as being evil.
The reality is the right is not evil. Supporting genocidal dictators like Stalin and Mao is.
Who did Mao genocide?
The great leap forward.
Here, read this. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/08/03/giving-historys-greatest-mass-murderer-his-due/
He sourcing from a book fairly widely discredited by academics. Adding on to the wildly discredited notion that the Soviet famine was intentional. Like this is literally cold war propaganda people were paroting in the 80s. Embarrassing
The fuck, have you ever heard of the Holodomor? Family members of people I know had people die of hunger because russian soldiers would confiscate all their food right before winter. Sick fucks.
I have heard of it that is why I referenced it, this argument has been raging for decades. The idea of a terror famine has been pushed in popular media even though it is not the common view held by experts in the field of study. I’ll link one of the funnier exchanges on the subject in Getty’s review of Conquest’s harvest of sorrow (one of the more more widely cited sources in popular culture of the intentional famine narrative) in the London review of books.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v09/n02/j.-arch-getty/starving-the-ukraine
For context this was also written before western academics has access to the Soviet archives which further served to vindicate the Getty’s criticism of the narrative.
No one denies that there was death and hardship. When you call something genocide you are saying there was a deliberate effort to eradicate a peoples, there isn’t sufficient evidence of intentionality or malice to come to the conclusion of genocide. You can say there was a poorly planned and executed state policy(I personally think it could have been better handled) but it also ignores the global context of wide spread crop failures at the time, for example in the north American dust bowl or the West African famines (I’d argue you can make a much more substantiated claim of genocide in West Africa). It also ignores the material conditions that Soviet agriculture at the time was underdeveloped because of the serfdom under the tsars.
I don’t expect us to reconcile but when your response is just my grandma says so you come off as unserious and that’s why you are getting dunked on. In America a popular boomer conspiracy that people will attest to is that there were Jews celebrating when 9/11 happened it doesn’t mean it’s correct or should be taken seriously.
I’ve seen posts of Hexbears saying they’ll vote for Trump, with no pushback from anyone else.
I had a Hexbear today tell me that it’s okay that Russian soldiers rape women and children in Ukraine because ML’s support violence for their cause and that’s just how it is.
It’s a small minority of Hexbears who hold abhorrent positions, but the rest of Hexbears tolerate them.
Does that particular Hexbear know that raping is wrong?
no we don’t, you’re just mad you aren’t the noblest position possible and you lash out at us when we critique you from the left.
“I’m all for socialism as long as it looks and feels just like capitalism and all the inhuman death and killing that comes along with it because at my heart I’m a selfish self centered lib who is quite happy to see minorities and working class people domestically and abroad killed to maintain my cushy standard of living. Read a book and learn what actual socialism and leftism means? No chance, I use my paper thin knowledge of politics and my middle of the road positions to impress whoever listens to me because I know nobody cares enough to Google why I’m a liar when I talk about politics, and demonising actual leftists as extremists gives my vapid centrist soc dem takes more clout with everyone huffed up on anti communism and crypto fascism these days. Sadly for me hexbear do know more than me and call me out for being the bloodthirsty callous lib I am and it makes me piss my pants and cry when it happens because I don’t want to take any social responsibility for the exploitation i benefit from waah”
Or something to that effect.
Uh no. Quit putting words in my mouth.
See my reply to the person you just replied to, cause I don’t feel like typing this shit out twice.
Lmao no
But you expect everyone to read your bullshit (which I did BTW). Hypocrite.
Shut up, MAGAt. Blocking you now. ✌️
DISENGAGE
Also I didn’t even reply to your comment weirdo, talk about feeling read and seeing your shit in my comment 👀
Uh what? I have no idea what any of that means.
I just don’t like Hexbear cause they claim to be communists yet constantly talk shit about liberals. Only MAGAts and Hexbear users hate liberals.
I miss /r/LateStageCapitalism, a community made of actual communist liberals, unlike Hexbear which is just full of rage baiting trolls. But I’ll never go back to reddit again.
“Communist liberal” is incoherent nonsense. Liberalism is a capitalist ideology that promotes private ownership of the means of production, communism subsequently doesn’t, they are contradictory ideologies.
Things are not so black and white. It’s possible to like ideas from both sides, without having to fully subscribe to a single idealogy.
There is no third way in this context, either you want workers to own the means of production or you want Capitalists to. Liberals want Capitalists to, and some liberals want Capitalists to own less, but see no overall problem with the current relationship between workers and their exploited labor. Communists want workers to own the means of production by contrast, these are opposing ideologies.
Absolutely false. It espouses private ownership. This can mean your own clothes, your own phone, your own computer, your own house, your own sentimental belongings, instead of everything being communally shared.
It is possible for the means of production, like factories, to be communally owned, while still allowing for small personal private ownership. You can strike a balance between liberalism and private ownership, and communism and communal ownership.
It’s not a black and white binary choices between “everything is private” and “everything is communal”.
I wish it didn’t block them. I can block individual instances and the instance of commenters is in plain view, just block them as you encounter them if they come of as too strong. They have some decent communities where sometimes there’s interesting things to read. Basically only some of the LGTB ones but yeah.
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No, not really. You guys have just made it insanely easy to identify yourselves. I always double check to make sure it’s hexbear.net, don’t worry.
That’s very open minded of you. Thank u
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There’s quite a few instances with pronouns, which is great.
Hexbear stands out to me for using double sets of pronouns, presumably because twice as many pronouns means you’re twice as progressive, and therefore twice as superior to people with only one set of pronouns.
Dude no
Haha. 💯