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Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined
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USB-C is the physical form. Does it actually dictate USB3?
All I can tell you is that the Pixel 7 has USB 3.2 spec.
Someone else in the thread said that the Pixel 2 (2017) also abides by USB 3.1 spec. I looked it up, apparently they weren’t lying.
Though the Google site does say:
Pixel phones use USB-C with USB 2.0 power adapters and cables.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/7106961?hl=en
Not sure if it still only accepts USB-C 2.0 cables as it’s maximum?
Yeah, you’re right. I bow to your superior logic.
Cunts gonna cunt.
Apples gonna Apple
They already said that
Amazing how this company is so successful knowing they’re just scamming their clients
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When you’re the biggest shop in your town it’s because you do good work.
When you’re the biggest shop in the world it’s because you’re scamming your clients.
TFW a wifi transfer literally loads files from your phone faster than a fucking cable.
That’s the point. Expect the iPhone 17 to be portless to the consumer.
USB 3.0 is way faster than WiFi and some phones even gave 3.1
And if USB SS+ (aka USB 3.1 gen 2 aka USB 3.2 gen 2×1) with 10 Gb/s is not enough for you, the newest iteration of the USB standard USB 4.0 version 2.0 has USB4 gen 4 at 80 Gb/s
Edit: for reference: Wi-Fi 4 supports up to 600 Mb/s or .6 Gb/s, while Wi-Fi 7 supports up to 46.12 Gb/s
… iPhone has USB 2.0
Yes, I know that,
The comment above implied that faster USB support isn’t needed because WiFi is faster anyways (obviously wrong).
I don’t think they intended to imply that faster USB support _isn’t needed _, but rather they are making a mockery of how absolutely absurd this reality is.
That is possible.
Apple fanboys drooling over the company as it continues to shit on them.
I doubt your typical apple user will use the usb port for anything other than charging.
If they are going to improve transfer speeds it’s not going to happen in the same iteration they’re being made to switch to usb c for two reasons:
- They want to incetivise users to upgrade to a newer model 16
- They will want to take credit for faster speeds. Otherwise people will think usb c is just faster than lighting they were stuck with for years.
Apple is very good at price discrimination. I hey know if they can build a slightly cheaper phone by reusing the SoC from the older lightning version, and 99% of iPhone users won’t care (for whatever reason) they then know that the 1% that does care will spend a little bit more on the Pro model. And they do that with few different features, which ends up with the Pro models selling a significant number of units.
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How do apple fan boys keeps eating this shit-sandwich year after year?
Most people are totally lost in a sea of capitalistic greed and wealth indicators. If you don’t keep up with the Joneses, are you really alive?
Samsung doesn’t support USB 3 on several of their higher priced phones, either.
Yes. Samsung is a garbage company as well.
And they’re also a shit company just like Apple.
Yes they don’t support. It’s different from supporting and limiting. I’ll bet there will be a super-duper-special USB cable or dongle you’ll be able to buy in order to get full speed.
It’s different from supporting and limiting.
We don’t have the information needed to speculate that this is the case.
The Pro model has the faster speeds while the regular model doesn’t.
That just means there’s different hardware in each device.
Ads campaigns apple spends billions in, such has having their brand name on top of every community to boost their popularity and overshadow competitors
They have convinced themselves it tastes better than a club sandwich.
It never had to make sense.
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Samsung Dex could literally replace your work machine then if that’s all you use
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it’s an identity. you might be surprised to see how often the apple logo is used on random things in countries where copyright doesn’t exist. like it’s a symbol of something really important.
but I think the USB 2.0 thing is completely normal and this is a misleading headline
edit: oh look im being le downvoteddit
I haven’t transferred data over a usb cable in at least a decade. This means nothing to me.
In other news: company with long history of selling over-priced, under featured products to aspirational nitwits does it again!
Yes, I can’t wait for them to launch the newest innovative tech of Type C fir iPhone, which will offer more speed and better compatibility cause they are the good guys who swear they would protect your data and keep an eye on your photos too.
I have family who actually believes all of what you just said. The tribalism can get a bit much.
Once the brand becomes a core part of someone’s identity, the company can do no wrong and it’s extremely difficult to convince them otherwise. The level of willful ignorance is astonishing. We have a similar problem in American politics.
This will probably shock you to the core, but some of us can use and enjoy the company’s products for a wide variety of reasons, whilst continuing to be skeptical and not liking every one of their decisions.
Nuh uh!
You like a thing I don’t! You’re a fanboy of that thing. Why else would you like it?
I tried to explain to my MIL once that iPhones contain mostly Samsung chips and Samsung displays just like most non-samsung Android phones because Samsung happens to be the best semiconductor manufacturer for phone parts. She paused to look at me like I had 3 heads and continued on about the unicorn farts and rainbow barf that makes her iPhone work.
Not long after that she bragged about how good of a deal she got on the 3 year contract with the regional carrier who has the worst coverage for the $1k+ phone that costs her more in a single month than I pay for a year of prepaid phone service. She even tried to say we need to switch to the plan she’s on to save money…
ITT: people who don’t realize that most USB-C cables are USB 2.0
Which is fine, I have a full speed USBC cable and it’s a thicc boi that I certainly wouldn’t want to shove in my pocket all the time and the 2.0 speed ones still charge my laptop even. But Apple is limiting the PORT, not the cable, which isn’t cool.
They can’t limit the cables, they don’t even come with the phone anymore
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And other “small” devices… hell even my toothbrush came with only a charging cable,… with an usb-a port,… and no brick…. FUCK YOU PHILIPS!!! What the F!!!
Sure but most USB-C Android devices can at least manage USB 3.0 speeds
This is irrelevant.
We’re talking about smartphones here, and most new Android phones support > 3.0.
Limiting a flagship phone in 2023 to USB 2.0 transfer and charging speeds is a cheapskate move.
The article only really has facts about the 2.0 cable, anything said about the device is speculated.
The entire article is literally based on a tweet where someone tested the cable. The title of the article and of this Lemmy post references that.
But boy does it generate attention for Apple.
Ah, I see. If the phones themselves support > 3.0, that would certainly be less egregious.
most new Android phones support > 3.0
Where do you find that information? Do you know of a reviewer that benchmarks the USB transfer rate of Android phones?
Edit: I found this: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-problem-usb-c-file-transfer-1075286/
10.8GB / 480 Mbps = 180 seconds, and those phones are all faster, so they must be using USB 3.x. In other words, iPhone 15 will have slower USB data than the Pixel 1.
IIRC current iphones with lightning connector are still using USB 2.0 and only ipad pro actually has USB 3. I could be wrong though.
Yeah I’ve ran into this problem a few times now. I use my Occulus Quest on my PC and it needs USB 3.2 cables. The meta branded ones are crazy expensive but I found a third party one for fairly cheap.
I just got a Pixel 7 Pro and it needs a special powerblock to rapid charge. My Samsung block from my S10+ didn’t meet the requirements, I had to go back to the Essential Phones included charger. The USB-C port on my PC’s case is at normal speeds, but the port on the mono charges rapidly.
That likely includes most policy makers. They should have enforce color coding usb c cables instead of forcing the form factor.
Little bit of a strange article.
First, it’s about data transfer speeds. I don’t think… anyone else in my extended family, and certainly none of the iPhone users, use a cable to transfer data frequently.
But more importantly - the subtitle of the article says that only the pro models offer faster charging speeds. Despite the article being exclusively about data transfer speeds.
I use USB-C for data heavy applications all the time. I’m running a monitor on one right now.
This means that a bunch of people are just going to end up with cables that are once again locked into their iPhone ecosystem and can’t be used for any other purpose. I find it hard to believe that this is anything but Apple thumbing their nose at the new EU regulations by intentionally making their “compliant” cables useless.
I highly doubt the limitation is going to be at the cable. They are generally known for their high quality production capabilities, meaning they would have to actively make the cable worse (and likely cost more while doing so.)
They are likely going to simply limit the controller to 2.0 speeds.
What a messy article. The title says that the cables are limited to 2.0 speeds (which they might as well be), the subtitle mentions charging speed as opposed to transfer speed and the article itself then talks about the port on the device having 2.0 speeds (for non “Pro” models).
Anyways, of course they gimp the base model on purpose. Every company does to set the more expensive models apart obviously, but Apple drives it to the extremes especially in recent years, which makes their line-up incredibly confusing. I mean they’ve gone out of their way to make their 10th gen base iPad use the old Apple Pencil, and they still don’t laminate the display even after they redesigned the exterior.
If you want a new iPhone this fall and you’re looking for something in the price range of the standard iPhone 15 (which will still be a very expensive phone of course), I’d recommend looking for previous year’s “Pro” model. The iPhone 13 Pro dropped around the iPhone 14 price at launch, and it’s essentially better in almost every way.
And because people will mention it: of course, you can also get a phone from a different manufacturer if it suits you, or keep your current phone.
Usb 2.0 is 23 years old now.
There’s a line between “enhancing the pro model by shitting on everyone else” but like this is just disrespectful.
But hey your money, spend that shit as stupidly as you want
(3.0 came out 15 years ago for reference, it’ll be older than some kids getting the phone ffs)
but like this is just disrespectful.
The word you’re looking for is “anti-consumer”
Apple didn’t even need to use USB C to do this bullshit:
The Lightning receptacle on the 12.9-inch iPad Pro (1st and 2nd generation) and 10.5-inch iPad Pro models has 16 pins, as there are additional eight pins on the other side. It supports USB 3.0 (now USB 3.2 Gen 1) at the maximum transfer speed of 5 Gbit/s.
- Wikipedia - Lightning (connector)
For reference USB 1.x/2.x A and B connectors have 4 or 5 pins, while USB 3.0+ A and B connectors have 9 or 10, with USB C having 24. USB 4.0 version 2.0 supports transfer speeds of up to 80 Gb/s. I think the 16 pin lighting connector could support USB 4.0, but this is just my speculation.
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If you need fast speeds, buy the pro bro /s
Lol they will probably have a special Apple cable that allows for faster speeds only for their specific devices
They will not, at least not in the EU.
That’s essentially exactly what the headline is already stating…
So, worse than a Galaxy S5. Got it.
