That is part of modern app design to increase user interaction which increases profit. Usually it’s just annoying and invasive to the user.
Users are a vessel for the share holders will.
You are so smart!
DEAR MACHINES:
You will speak when spoken to. You will not speak out of turn. You are there for me to use when I need you, and you will otherwise keep quiet.
You will not attempt to draw my attention nor will you take up space on my screen unless I deem it necessary. You will not be friendly or clever or use cutesy emojis.
YOU ARE A MACHINE. A TOOL. YOU WILL STAY IN MY TOOLBOX UNTIL I NEED YOU. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
People are going to freak out when AI starts contacting them out of the blue.
the day i hear a facsimile of a human voice tell me to buy an app is the day i start carrying a seawater spray bottle with me
Tesco App: We have coupons and deals for you. :)
Me: BEGONE THOT!
Why would you even have an app like that installed? Does it do anything else than display the latest offers, like a website does?
IF YOU CAN TELL ME YOU HAVE DEALS FOR ME WHY CAN’T YOU APPLY THEM AUTOMATICALLY
I HATE apps that you installed to get legit notifications, say a doorbell camera, and they use it to push ads to you, or “premium” features. guess I’m not buying your brand anymore, bitch.
If an app gives me more than a couple of unwanted notifications that I can’t easily disable, it’s uninstalled. Fuck that shit.
The first time an app does it I delete it. If I really need it that bad I can just redownload it when I actually need it.
Nah man, you definitely want a deal on a Lime scooter rental even though you’re 500 miles from the nearest one.
my phone is only allowed to send me notifications if it’s:
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a human attempting to contact me
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weather
and only allowed make a sound if
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i’m watching a YouTube video
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i’m expecting a call
then i get into my mum’s car and her phone connected to Bluetooth reads out her spam email through the car speakers- 😐
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This is why we need better resource/battery management services with Magisk or Xposed integration. On my phone the Rom has one integrated already, lets you set apps to be prevented from running in the background completely, preventing tracking, annoying notifications, and battery usage. Though unfortunately these types of tools aren’t available on all roms, and they really need root or system access to be effective.
I believe it was SAP Concur that my last employer used for filing expenses. Every few months it popped up a notification asking me whether or not I “loved it.” I always answered “no.” Then it wanted to know why. I think that’s inappropriate behavior in a professional setting, and I told it so. Regardless, it kept asking the same thing, so I asked if it wanted me to speak to HR.
TLDR got sexually harassed by an app.
Report that to HR, bro, you deserve to feel safe.
Every app gets like, 1 chance to have useful notifications, if most of them are trash I just disable its ability to send notifications.
While I do this too I’m beginning to think that it’s being too nice, companies see that as us still using the app after the annoying notification, so Google has no reason to stop incoraging App devs to do it
Pfft, apps have to earn notifications. Do you want any notifications from a grocery app? Unless it could check the stock of my local grocery store and let me know if an unpurchased item becomes out of stock or if I can share it with a roomate and they add things to it. But even then, how much does that really matter?
Second to this: an app has to earn social media status, or social media levels of engagement.
I’m looking at you, Venmo. No, sharing my spending details with other people online, is not a good idea. Ever. Conspicuous consumption is a social blight already, and you dare taint my phone by suggesting I lean into it? Do better.
idiot. i will kill you now
I hate uber advertising stuff on my notifications which also appear on my Fitbit.
10% off flights?! OMG. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
But I DO want notifications on my wrist when my Uber driver has arrived. Psshhh
Turn them off and they’ll text you, which costs them money so they only send the necessary stuff.
Same
The risk of people turning them off entirely must’ve been just enough to get them to offer this granularity (as seen on iOS). Not all apps are so kind (grr).
Thank you ❤️
🤗
You can control which apps can send notifications to fitbit, at least on Android
But I agree, the Uber ones are the worst
the only issue is that Fitbit requires it’s app to be running in the background to deliver notifications, and for some reason it wants to use internet.
The issue is with the information. Like the one above us said they want to be notified that their ride has arrived but to allow that notification you have be willing to accept advertisements as well.
It’s the reason a majority of people just straight up kill notifications. Way to many useless ones to justify the 1 in 8 that you want.
The answer: tech bros dictating that they need more “engagement” e.g. they need to collect more data so they can either sell said data or get acquired. I guarantee you very few mobile developers want to send you a notification of any sort, much less “why haven’t you used the app.”
I wish I could murder engagement driven design with a hammer.
You’re not alone.
To quote the other comment in this thread: “just use Fdroid”. No engagement driven design there.
I wish they estimated how fucking annoying their interventions were. Like you might be boosting clicks per minute in the short term, but it’s going to go down to zero after a week when I get fed up — when Netflix started auto playing videos, I threw my TV out the window.
This is like bing AI chatbot asking a question back of its answer now
all computers should be like the one in star trek TNG, for simple feedback it just beeps and bloops in ways that are intuitive, and if it actually needs to use speech to relay detailed information it does so in a short and efficient message delivered in a clearly roboticly neutral yet pleasant voice.
speech to relay detailed information it does so in a short and efficient message
So the antithesis of modern capitalist mindset of cheap devices that are designed solely to advertise?
Yeah, IDK if that’s ever going to happen unless we achieve Star Trek levels of societal restructuring.
you can run linux as a completely fine desktop OS right now, and there are several open source assistant projects, then there’s stuff like mozilla’s deep voice for recognizing voice input and you can totally train a voice synthesizing model on people who willingly donate their voices.
It’s not really that far out, it just needs a handfull of people who want to see it done and have some spare time they’re willing to occupy with development.
and you can totally train a voice synthesizing model on people who willingly donate their voices.
I’ll be honest: it isn’t very copyleft of me, but I want literally Majel Barrett.
PLEASE SCAN YOUR MEMBERSHIP CARD
Last time I was using a windows computer I was turning it off to re image it and I didn’t want to wait for it to shut down so I just held the power button since it didn’t matter if it got messed up and windows popped up this message on screen that was like “Please stop holding the power button we just need a few minutes”. Like what are you doing you aren’t supposed to tell the user what to do, that isn’t the job of a computer
The moment my computer refuses to obey my commands sent from the physical layer, is the moment it will cease to exist on this physical plane
Honestly that’s one of the least annoying ways windows interacts with modern hardware, you should experience when it changes your efi settings and breaks pxe booting
Funny button on the back of the PSU goes click
I wish, the new dell optiplexes are terrible, not only do they not have an actual psu switch, it takes like 20 seconds of holding the power button before they turn off and then you have to wait like 10 seconds before you can turn it on again, during which time it does a really good job of pretending to be on and flashing disk activity lights and things but it’s actually just self testing and you have to wait for it to turn back off before you can actually turn it on again. Dell used to make such good quality computers but they are genuinely awful now
has any OEM computer ever had a PSU switch? I thought those were only on aftermarket psus and user built machines. I’ve got a few Dell computers and none have a switch.
You can still yank the power chord out.
I was known to yank a power chord or two back in college…
I kill you now
Whoa, that escalated quickly.
Certainly not an over reaction. If an app sends me an uninvited notification then it gets uninstalled and black listed immediately. Even with apps I use regularly, the notifications are blocked most of the day. People undervalue their attention, and phone notifications are trying to steal your attention. Block it all. Even messaging and email apps can be blocked. I’m pretty sure I’m going to check my phone in a maximum of the next 60 min and a message can wait till I’m ready to look at my phone at my convenience.
Amen, my phone doesn’t do a thing to draw my attention unless someone is actively calling me or I have willed it do so for an extremely limited amount of time.
It feels so natural to toss my phone aside and not touch it again for a couple hours, it seems weird to me there are people that, like, cannot do that without anxiety
