Former president tells Glenn Beck he would have ‘no choice’ but to lock up opponents ‘because they’re doing it to us’

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    We have Project 2025 out there literally announcing the end of democracy should a republican president be voted in. Their plan is to enact Schedule F which allows the prez to kick people from the senate and place his own chosen people there and to allow the prez to essentially take over the whole executive branch of the government.

    LIKE GODDAMMIT, THERE’S A DICTATORSHIP UNDER CONSTRUCTION! WHY ISN’T THIS EVEN NEWSWORTHY? WHY DOES THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA SOLELY FOCUS ON THE CLIMATE ASPECT ON PROJECT 2025? IT’S LITERALLY THE PLAN TO END DEMOCRACY! AND OF COURSE LGBTQIA+ PEOPLE!

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      Thought you were joking but it’s holy shit it’s real. The heritage foundation even has an article about it.

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      Dude/dudette, I just want to say thank you for making us aware of this. It’s batshit, and it absolutely does need to be blasted on all channels.

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      Mainstream media wants it to happen and is owned by the very people who designed it.

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      As bad as Project 2025 looks I couldn’t see anything about kicking out senators, “just” federal employees.
      Any sources on the more extreme claims?

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        You kick out the federalist that do things like, investigate overturning elections, and suddenly the midterms are all republican wins.

        From there, you have someone who can get power passed to change things like presidential term limits. Now you have a king or an emperor with a bunch of yes men backing him up in decisions. Eventually, they can institute whatever policies they want and force states, by force, to enact what they want with military power and courts who rule in their favor.

        Oh, but there are people in the military who will stand up and do what’s right? Well, they will be branded as wackos and enemies of the state who are speaking ill of the totally “legit” election. So they are put in front of a firing squad and all that’s left are those who already believe in Der Fuhrer.

        It’s a complete shit show in the making and fucking frightening what they could do with disinformation and no checks.

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        You’re definitely right. I spent a good minute going through the guide but the most nefarious stuff was gaining complete control of the executive branch. This guide is like a first step for a first term. Well brb guys, going to figure how to take over the government with only the executive branch.

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          Is the army part of the executive? If yes, then… idk, build a shelter, leave, arm yourself or just accept your new overlords.

          Theoretically a president could call the army to throw out dissidents. In practice… i think the army is right-leaning but i don’t think that they would simply follow through. It depends.

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            Per section 4 DOD I should be getting some brownie point by providing more goodies to each branch even the space force. I would also be making adjustments to the culture to make sure there’s no woke people. Personal army wise I think my best bet will be to use ice since they fall under Homeland security. There was a note somewhere about removing the restrictions of where they can operate.

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      That book they’re selling is like a modern “Mein Kampf.” It’s very interesting because I know quite a few moderate conservatives who wouldn’t ever support the policy proposed in this book, but they are still going to vote red because they believe it will fix the economy.

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    I was wondering if the actual quote was something more weaselly than that but nope.

    Beck: “If you become president will you lock people up?”

    Trump: “The answer is you have no choice, because they’re doing it to us.”

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      Fascists always do the ole ‘he hit me first waah’ gambit. All you can do is ignore it and treat them like the crybabies they are.

      Perhaps if someone gives trump a dummy (binky) and rocks him gently we’ll all be able to sleep for a while.

      ‘It’s okay, you were the bestest president, sleep now, everyone lubs you. Shhh.’

      Followed by a brick.

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      Vote. And get all your friends, coworkers, and families to vote. That’s how we stop this bullshit from happening. And vote at the state and local level too. It actually can make a hell of a difference.

      I’ve voted on stuff that passed by a mere 1,250 votes, and restored bus lines that ran past my house by voting and organizing. It’s kind of amazing to see it in action.

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    Well he campaigned on “lock her up” and despite nearly a dozen investigations and her testifying in front of Congress for 10 hours, guess what happened? Zippity doo daa

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          I guarantee the person you’re responding wants nothing less than to become educated on this topic.

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        You’re thinking of Reagan testifying before Congress about Iran Contra.

        It worked for Karl Rove and Dick Cheney when they talked about vote manipulation in 2004.

        It was also the only way Spiro Agnew got through his corruption hearing in front of Congress while Nixon tried to do the same for Watergate until the taped conversations were released.

        It’s a time tested conservative play when confronted by a request to tell the truth: don’t lie but deny the allegations. Weirdly, I can’t find any time a democrat, Hilary or otherwise, repeated “I don’t recall” for their entire testimony. It just seems to be a conservative play.

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    What else would this douchebag do, really? He had 4 years and the only thing he “accomplished” was tax breaks for the elite.

    Of course this tiny petty man will use the power of the office to exact revenge. He’s not going to do anything for Americans.

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      He had 4 years and the only thing he “accomplished” was tax breaks for the elite

      He also “accomplished” making intentional allies a lot less willing to trust the US.

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          Honestly, I’m glad to see the EU and its constituent countries realize it needs to be able to assert itself without counting fully on the US.

          Granted, I don’t have to live in the US myself, so… Sorry about that.

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        To be fair, a lot of those deaths were inevitable. Trump did not create the anti-vax movement. He just taught it to torture itself with horse dewormer to own the libs.

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          To be fair and accurate, he lied to the country about the seriousness of the outbreak. He’s on recording in Feb 2020 flat-out telling Bob Woodward it’s going to be bad, it’s much more deadly than the flu. At the same time he’s publicly calling it a hoax, that its going to go away, like a miracle.

          The people that trusted him didn’t take it serious because he told them not to, and then accused everyone taking it serious to be fools or intentionally trying to create a panic and steal their liberties. Had he simply allowed the scientists and the CDC to speak candidly and deferred to them, thousands upon thousands of lives would have been saved.

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            Oh I don’t mean to imply he is not responsible or try to make light of his disastrous incompetence, the absolute shithead definitely got many people killed by insisting the biggest public health crisis in recent memory was no big deal. A solid quarter of the US population to this day still hangs on his every word. I’m just saying that with or without him, a good chunk of people were going to refuse to get vaccinated or practice social distancing no matter what. This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new.

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              This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new.

              Sadly, you’re correct, this is very much not new. That’s a political flier from 1955 put out during the height of the red scare and McCarthyism. I’d say conservatives need new material, but it’s very clear that the old material is working just as well today as it was 70 years ago.

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      I was looking into this. Obama added roughly 8 trillion dollars to the national debt. Trump added the same amount in half as much time.

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        While both of these statements are true, Obama did it to get the US out of the recession hole where the previous 8 years of unsecured mortgages and crazy walls street bets from investment banks created endemic risk and failure propagation.
        Very different outcomes of the same moneys, specially considering we even turn some profit on sellin the bailed out car companies and once they paid some of these loans.

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        it’s important to understand each of their reasoning:

        Obama added to the national debt in order to jumpstart a stalled economy that was deep, DEEEEEEP in the shitter after Bush just noped’out after letting the housing market explode and adding two wars to the bill. Paying all that shit off, PLUS, what was planned to be damned-near-universal-healthcare but became JUST a huge expansion to most people’s health benefits (the ACA).

        Those are things Obama’s admin paid for and we saw actual, tangible returns on. The economy roared back to life. Medical costs and insurance costs went down.

        What benefits did we see from Trump’s deficit ballooning tax cuts? hmm lemme look here… ah, the report says JACK SHIT.

        Unless you’re a billionaire.

        So yeah, they both added to the national debt but at least most americans received a functioning economy and a chance for healthcare from Obama. Genuinely, Thanks Obama!

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      Honest question, but how is Trump still alive? He’s in his late seventies, apparently eats McDonalds most days with an ungodly amount of diet coke, and looks like he hasn’t exercised since the 80’s.

      He’ll be in his 80’s if he gets another term, and given his lifestyle, the stresses of business/politics, and the constant travel, I simply cannot see him continuing. I know Biden is 80, but at least he looks like he’s looked at a vegetable or had a brisk walk this year…

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        Pretty sure a bunch of them live off spite and hatred. My kindest grandparents passed away first, and the meanest one is still somehow kicking.

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      I’ve always said, when he dies, the right wing nutters are going to go fucking BALLiSTIC with conspiracy theories, and De Santis or whoever takes over will fan the flames and accuse Biden or Hillary or whoever the fuck of having him assassinated and shits going to melt down fast.

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    So they screech about the justice system being weaponized because they’re being tried and prosecuted for their crimes, and then turn around and in the same breath just flat out say they’ll weaponize the justice system. Classic case of saying the quiet part out loud.

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      Most conservatives, as in all of those not in charge, have issues with empathy; specifically imagining the inner world of any other human being. That’s not to say that cannot do this very simple human activity, rather they specifically cannot imagine any other human on the planet thinks any differently or has any other motivations than them. Therefore if they would do something in a situation, then everyone in that situation must be trying to do the thing that they would do.

      They believe democrats are weaponizing the justice system, because it’s what they would do, and thus they assume anyone that failed to do that before now was simply prevented from doing so – now that they see ‘weaponized’ justice happening, they think it’s fair game for their guys to do it.

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      If you (in the general sense) don’t believe that Trump and his cronies committed crimes, then you would likely believe that the justice system is being used to attack him. If it’s being used to attack him, then him doing the same to his opponents is equivalent and fair.

      Whether or not you believe he committed crimes is dependent on your news sources, ability to fact check and think critically, and your trust in the justice system.

      A very significant portion of the population doesn’t believe he committed crimes.

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    Once again the Right is accusing the Left of things the Right wants to do.

    Pretty sneaky trick really.

    Say your enemy is going to do something

    Do it

    Get told “Hey you’re doing X”

    Tell them “Projecting much? Everyone knows you’re the one who’s doing X, I even said so before you accused me of anything!”

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    They need to ask ab9ut this during these republican debate/PR events. Do you support tump’s call tto arrest his political opponents?" Yes or no,

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    Apart from the whole dictator thing, they had the presedential power for 4 years and managed to lock up exactly nobody… Not saying they’re not dangerous but why would their base believe them this time, action should really speak louder than words with those simpletons and Trump has been all words.

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      They didn’t lock anybody up, but they DID drain the swamp. And then they put the sludge dredged off the bottom in cabinet positions.

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      Last time they didn’t expect to win and their base wasn’t nearly as far down the fascism rabbithole. Now the mask is off, and the GOP knows that magats are more than willing to turn and eat them alive if they try to tap the brakes on the Trump Train. He who rides the tiger can never dismount.