• iii@mander.xyz
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    3 hours ago

    is what gas is for

    Wouldn’t it be better to go fossil free. Given, you know, climate change. And the fact that the gas needs to be shipped all the way from the US.

    That’s physically impossible for a place the size of Germany, much less Europe.

    Unless we use a different technology, that is not renewables + storage?

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      Wouldn’t it be better to go fossil free. Given, you know, climate change.

      Gas can be synthesised and we’re going to have to do that anyway for chemical feedstock. Maintaining backup gas plant capacity is cheaper than you think, they don’t need much maintenance if they’re not actually running.

      That’s physically impossible for a place the size of Germany, much less Europe.

      Unless we use a different technology, that is not renewables + storage?

      It’s not technology it’s physics. It is impossible for there to be no wind anywhere, at least as long as the sun doesn’t explode and the earth continues to rotate and an atmosphere exists. If any of those ever fail electricity production will be the least of our worries.

      Technology comes into play when it comes to shovelling electricity from one end of the continent to the other and yes we need more interconnects and beefier interconnects but it’s not like we don’t know how to do that, or don’t already have a Europe-wide electricity grid. The issues are somewhere in between NIMBYism regarding pylons and “but we don’t want to pay for burying the cable earthworks are expensive”.

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        2 hours ago

        Gas can be synthesised

        When’s that going to happen? Right after the green hydrogen revolution?

        They’ve been saying that for decades. It isn’t happening. It’s just natural gas.

        It’s not technology it’s physics

        Sorry, I didn’t think someone would deny the existance of dunkelflautes. It’s currently happening in Germany. (1).