• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Bourgeois is the characteristic of the middle class.

    Bourgeoisie is the middle class itself.

    The Aristocracy is the class that controls most governments.

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        17 hours ago

        During the time of Marx, the bourgeoisie was keeping the proletariat down.

        Now, the bourgeoisie has become smaller and less influential.

        Our oppressors are the aristocrats.

        • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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          15 hours ago

          What?! The bourgeoisie is the owning class of the means of production. They exploit labour and are the primary enemy of the working classes of this world

          EDIT: aristocrats are a feature of feudalism and it’s remnants

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            14 hours ago

            Right. And what class is running Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street and the like that sit on the board with majority ownership of every bourgeoisie owned business? Please.

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              10 hours ago

              You’re using class terminology in a way that doesn’t conform to any leftist current and this deliberately confuses the conversation. Furthermore, the bourgeoisie are the class that owns Blackrock, Vanguard, etc. You are using Petite Bourgeoisie to refer to Bourgeoisie.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Even in Marx’s time, there was stock speculation, he even won money on the stock market on occasion. The Bourgeoisie are owners of Capital, this includes large financial and stock Capital as well. The subsection of the bourgeoisie that faces proletarianization is the Petite Bourgeoisie.

                  You’d do well to read Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism.

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                    9 hours ago

                    You didn’t answer my question, and now I have another.

                    How did he invest in stocks if there wasn’t a Soviet stock system? Russia created the RTS (Russian Trading System) in 1995.

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          16 hours ago

          More like plutocrats. Aristocrats would be the nobel left after the fall of monarchies. Plutocrats are the rich corporate elite.

          Or just go with the umbrella term: Oligarchs.

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            15 hours ago

            Fair. We still agree that our enemy is not the bourgeoisie. They’re becoming more of the proletariat every year.