It is. It’s in the constitution and barring civil war and a military take over of the government that amendment is not going away.
But if there’s one thing I’ve learnt, it’s that Trump can seemingly do whatever the fuck he wants.
Actually he can’t. He most definitely can bloviate and spew whatever the fuck he wants, but when it comes to actually doing I think his track record is quite poor. For the most part he counts on toadies to fall in line and do his bidding, mainly so they can take the blame if it goes south. That he will be term limited is, IMO, the saving grace for those useful idiots - they know they can get rid of him and they only need to kiss his ass another 4 years.
1a. How: The law. Literally Trump “can’t” just say “I’m going to run again”. The constitution forbids it. Now I’m not saying that will stop all the states from putting him on the ballot, but it will stop many, and that’s enough to get any sane Republican screaming for an alternative.
1b. Why: The law. Republicans know perfectly well Trump is a shit-show, but they lacked the courage to say no to a 2nd term. A third term puts them into not-needing-a-spine-to-say-no territory. Many desperately want to get rid of him and that is their safe opportunity.
2. Of course I do. I also remember the attempted coup failed miserably. And anyway that is quite different from running in the primary.
The Law Is Not A Magic Spell. It’s a set of agreements enforced by violence. All the enforcers are fanatical fascists. And the last sane republican I know of died in February 2012. He hadn’t voted for president this century. If those were still a thing; we wouldnt be in this position.
1b: the law, sane republicans
So, still not a magic spell. I’m afraid you dont know how cultists, social conformity, or sunk costs work. They’re going to have endorsed the horrible things that happen here. They can’t accept culpability for that. You know what they say;
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Or something.
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The coup failed because hisbpeople were profoundly incompetent and mostly senile. You’ll notice the police and military dispatchers we suspiciously slow that day. It was just the poor rubes already on the ground there responding to this shit. The courts largely declined to ounish abuobe involved; all thd s um eho organized it got off clean, and even the worst of the nazis on the ground got milder sentences than any ive seen for juat being near someone who broke a window in 2020. What does any of this have to do with primaries? Why would they hold a primary?
More than likely he’d just go the direction of Russia/Putin and run behind a candidate he endorses but then effectively take control after the puppet candidate wins.
You are speculating that SCOTUS will let some challenge slide. But it’s the constitution and SCOTUS doesn’t get to change what it says just because they are corrupt.
“No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice”
Laws are not magic spells, and all the people who enforce them are his creatures.
Just because we use the same rules for our violently enforced traditions of hierarchy and the physical constants of reality does not mean they’re actually the same thing.
Laws are not magic spells, and all the people who enforce them are his creatures.
Demonstrably not.
Just because we use the same rules for our violently enforced traditions of hierarchy and the physical constants of reality does not mean they’re actually the same thing.
You are either 14 and very profound or a newly-minted graduate student. 'Cause I have no idea what you are trying to say.
He cannot create something from nothing. He cannot act without an equal and opposite reaction. He cannot exceed the ideal speed of unimpeded light. He cannot be smaller than the Planck length. Try as he might; it simply cannot be done.
A person has to actively to stop him from doing all the rape murder and genocide his shitty little chest void desires. Nobody has. Are you going to?
I’m saying calling both these categories ‘laws’ is misleading.
Are you going to engage with my ideas, or try to discredit me by… Saying I’m getting an education?
I’m confused as to what your argument is here. My best guess is that what I said resonated with you enough to make you uncomfortable, and youre trying to discredit me so you dont have to think about it.
And I get that. I get trying to stay comfortable, I get trying to cling to what you have and what’s worked to keep it in the past, but we no longer have that luxury. Do not rely on the ‘law’ to protect you. Start looking at alternatives. I know its scary, I know its new, and I know it might require change, but its what we need to get through this. Maybe what you find will end up enriching you long term, if you survive. Change isn’t always bad.
SCOTUS has the final say on what the Constitution should mean right now. They can decide however they want. The only remedies are through the legislature (impeachment, constitutional amendments, increasing the size of the court). But if they decide something, that’s the law of the land even if it’s blatantly wrong.
SCOTUS has the final say on what the Constitution should mean right now. They can decide however they want.
Not entirely. There are actually limits and checks on SCOTUS power, including the restrictions on what cases they can hear, the ability of congress to change the make up of the court and terms of appointments as well as change it’s jurisdiction.
Now I grant it’s easy to throw up one’s hands and say “ah but that will never happen with a congress bowing and scraping to Trump” but I’d counter with two points: we can still gain majorities in the senate and house in 2026 and, crucially, if there’s one thing you can count on it’s the avaricious and rapacious nature of politicians.
I fully expect our entire country to slide into a deep recession and for there to be complete paralyzing chaos in the federal government over the next 4 years. That threatens the status quo, meaning congress critters ability to freely grift, make money off the stock market and remain in power. They won’t like that.
SCOTUS has already started ignoring things like standing. I mentioned that the main check on SCOTUS is the legislature. I don’t think Congress can get its shit together long enough to effect any real check. Last term they could barely elect a speaker and this term they have even slimmer majorities. Unless the midterms are a historically large blue wave, it’s not going to matter. If a handful of defectors can kill the change, it’s not happening.
He can’t himself since it’s spelled out in the constitution in the 22nd amendment.
So tl;dr it would need 3/4 of the states to repeal that. More detail than that, but that’s what it boils down to.
I really hope that’s the case. But if there’s one thing I’ve learnt, it’s that Trump can seemingly do whatever the fuck he wants.
It is. It’s in the constitution and barring civil war and a military take over of the government that amendment is not going away.
Actually he can’t. He most definitely can bloviate and spew whatever the fuck he wants, but when it comes to actually doing I think his track record is quite poor. For the most part he counts on toadies to fall in line and do his bidding, mainly so they can take the blame if it goes south. That he will be term limited is, IMO, the saving grace for those useful idiots - they know they can get rid of him and they only need to kiss his ass another 4 years.
Why not? He couldn’t steal an election attemot a violent coup or bankrupt a casino either.
Who’s gonna stop him?
Yeah, they’ve all done a bang-up job over the last four years.
That’s a bit like saying because you found a hair in your soup - which you found bland and overpriced - that you want a shit sandwich instead.
I didn’t say I wanted the shit sandwich. I’m saying I don’t trust them to keep the shit sandwich away from my plate.
How? Why?
Do you not remember last time? And why do you think losing an election will keep a loyalist out of power?
1a. How: The law. Literally Trump “can’t” just say “I’m going to run again”. The constitution forbids it. Now I’m not saying that will stop all the states from putting him on the ballot, but it will stop many, and that’s enough to get any sane Republican screaming for an alternative. 1b. Why: The law. Republicans know perfectly well Trump is a shit-show, but they lacked the courage to say no to a 2nd term. A third term puts them into not-needing-a-spine-to-say-no territory. Many desperately want to get rid of him and that is their safe opportunity. 2. Of course I do. I also remember the attempted coup failed miserably. And anyway that is quite different from running in the primary.
The Law Is Not A Magic Spell. It’s a set of agreements enforced by violence. All the enforcers are fanatical fascists. And the last sane republican I know of died in February 2012. He hadn’t voted for president this century. If those were still a thing; we wouldnt be in this position.
So, still not a magic spell. I’m afraid you dont know how cultists, social conformity, or sunk costs work. They’re going to have endorsed the horrible things that happen here. They can’t accept culpability for that. You know what they say;
Or something.
The coup failed because hisbpeople were profoundly incompetent and mostly senile. You’ll notice the police and military dispatchers we suspiciously slow that day. It was just the poor rubes already on the ground there responding to this shit. The courts largely declined to ounish abuobe involved; all thd s um eho organized it got off clean, and even the worst of the nazis on the ground got milder sentences than any ive seen for juat being near someone who broke a window in 2020. What does any of this have to do with primaries? Why would they hold a primary?
More than likely he’d just go the direction of Russia/Putin and run behind a candidate he endorses but then effectively take control after the puppet candidate wins.
Oh that? That meant consecutive terms. Trump can totally be president again in 2028. Just ask SCOTUS.
You are speculating that SCOTUS will let some challenge slide. But it’s the constitution and SCOTUS doesn’t get to change what it says just because they are corrupt.
“No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice”
Seems pretty crystal clear.
Laws are not magic spells, and all the people who enforce them are his creatures.
Just because we use the same rules for our violently enforced traditions of hierarchy and the physical constants of reality does not mean they’re actually the same thing.
Demonstrably not.
You are either 14 and very profound or a newly-minted graduate student. 'Cause I have no idea what you are trying to say.
He cannot create something from nothing. He cannot act without an equal and opposite reaction. He cannot exceed the ideal speed of unimpeded light. He cannot be smaller than the Planck length. Try as he might; it simply cannot be done.
A person has to actively to stop him from doing all the rape murder and genocide his shitty little chest void desires. Nobody has. Are you going to?
I’m saying calling both these categories ‘laws’ is misleading.
Undergrad?
Are you going to engage with my ideas, or try to discredit me by… Saying I’m getting an education?
I’m confused as to what your argument is here. My best guess is that what I said resonated with you enough to make you uncomfortable, and youre trying to discredit me so you dont have to think about it.
And I get that. I get trying to stay comfortable, I get trying to cling to what you have and what’s worked to keep it in the past, but we no longer have that luxury. Do not rely on the ‘law’ to protect you. Start looking at alternatives. I know its scary, I know its new, and I know it might require change, but its what we need to get through this. Maybe what you find will end up enriching you long term, if you survive. Change isn’t always bad.
What ideas?
SCOTUS has the final say on what the Constitution should mean right now. They can decide however they want. The only remedies are through the legislature (impeachment, constitutional amendments, increasing the size of the court). But if they decide something, that’s the law of the land even if it’s blatantly wrong.
Not entirely. There are actually limits and checks on SCOTUS power, including the restrictions on what cases they can hear, the ability of congress to change the make up of the court and terms of appointments as well as change it’s jurisdiction.
Now I grant it’s easy to throw up one’s hands and say “ah but that will never happen with a congress bowing and scraping to Trump” but I’d counter with two points: we can still gain majorities in the senate and house in 2026 and, crucially, if there’s one thing you can count on it’s the avaricious and rapacious nature of politicians.
I fully expect our entire country to slide into a deep recession and for there to be complete paralyzing chaos in the federal government over the next 4 years. That threatens the status quo, meaning congress critters ability to freely grift, make money off the stock market and remain in power. They won’t like that.
SCOTUS has already started ignoring things like standing. I mentioned that the main check on SCOTUS is the legislature. I don’t think Congress can get its shit together long enough to effect any real check. Last term they could barely elect a speaker and this term they have even slimmer majorities. Unless the midterms are a historically large blue wave, it’s not going to matter. If a handful of defectors can kill the change, it’s not happening.
Well I guess we should just throw up our hands and declare defeat then.