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Yes, a Pigeon is Faster for Data Transfer than Gigabit Fiber Internet::A decade ago, a pigeon with a 4 GB memory stick outran an ISP’s ADSL service. A 2023 rematch features a bird with 3 TB of flash drives vs gigabit internet.
Yeah, but having that ping time of 36,000,000ms really kind of sucks.
Error-correction for dropped packets is also pretty shit.
oh, that’s what’s on my car.
Also having to manually bring the pigeon back to the launching site, because pigeons only work one way.
What if you attached two one-way pigeons together to make a two-way pidgeon? It would probably take a piece of string, and a coconut…
Its UDP man
What if you make it carry N+M separate flash drives configured in a Raid Z(M) format… allowing for up to M-1 dropped packets.
“Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of magnetic tapes hurtling down the highway”
Huh, I fully expected the link to be a hard drive article
Haha, in some parts of germany you can do that yourself. on foot. with a zipdisk.
Good ole sneakernet. It’s hard to have dropped packets when they’re delivered by hand
Can’t help but think that they are rigging this for the bird. Just calculate how long it takes the bird to get from here to there and then pick a capacity that takes longer to download.
That’s kind of the point though. It’s not about practicalities.
There is an ancient proverb.
“Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of magnetic tapes.”Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway. –Andrew Tanenbaum, 1981
Is he the guy to blame for The Royal Tanenbaums?
/j
There are no winners or losers here and they are not suggesting you start uploading things via pigeons, just gives a more interesting way to talk about and get people to think about how large volumes of data can and are still moved around via trucks and ships.
See also IP over Avian Carriers - Wikipedia
also the followup: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
its like they choose 3 TB because they knew it was the smallest amount that would lose. lets make it a real re-match and go back to transfering 4 GB.
In that case: Time appropiate storage size.
i guess im confused why 3 TB was chossen. what is this representing. Most people are not transfering 3 TB on a regular basis, 100 GB is a large transfer for common cases. who is this information for? who should be looking into pigeons/jets for regular multi-TB data transfers. just sounds like pigeon propaganda to me.
birds arent real is leaking… Neat :D
Most people are not transfering 3 TB on a regular basis
The usual Joe? Yep.
Off site backup is usually out of question except for datahoarders and businesses. But they might benefit from it.
Lag is a real bitch though…
Yea, and packet size is enormous, so one lost packet is catastrophic…
This is why you use TCP: Trusted Concurrent Pigeons.
Trusted Pigeons so that a simple hash check can prove the veracity of your data AND provide a free dedupe / data integrity check for when multiple/single packets arrive.
Concurrent Pigeons so that transmission issues don’t impact latency (throughput is essentially unlimited here, assuming sufficient pigeons)
Downsides include needing to implement a pigeon cache and power (birdfood) requirement increases.
You forgot about the interference (bird shit) it’ll cause with other things throughout the
datahighway
Telnet sucks bad with Pigeonet
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He included those transfers as well. He used usb sticks with an actual SSD chip, since those are faster to read/write from.
If it’s mounted, what’s the difference?
I once signed up for a cloud backup service that would mail out a HDD so the user could backup to that, mail it to them, seed the data on the backup servers, and then let the user start doing incremental backups. FedEx, round trip, was faster than uploading it all over the network.
This reminds me of the age when the egregiousness of home Internet data overage charges in Canada reached their zenith, with some back of the napkin math, I realized it would be more cost effectuvd to buy and fill a solid state drive (which had only begun to come down in price) with stuff, ship it overnight international, and then destroy it after downloading its contents, than to hit the overage charge limit with my provider.
When can I start using a pigeon to preload games like Starfield?
I wrote a similar blog post recently, about magnetic tapes in minivans. https://www.humancode.us/2023/02/03/a-minivan-full-of-magnetic-tape.html
Get back to me when a pigeon can deliver high-speed porn.
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I can carry way more HDDs than that weakass stupid pigeon. So what I can’t run to save my life.
Isn’t gigabit internet more about amounts of data you can transfer rather than the overt speed that is not important to average user?