The historical context is clear enough that there is no need to talk about any of it: the current events are a continuation of centuries of Russian expansionist imperialist aggression. Their excuses may change but the fact of Russian imperialism does not.
Yeah, I’m aware y’all don’t like to acknowledge the Maiden Coup, the Nazis in charge, the genocide of ethnic Russians in the Donbas, NATO swarming the Russian border with troops & missile deployments and escalation for years, etc.
Like I said, I’ve been through this with you people before. You can move to the denial portion of the script now. Let’s get this over with.
It’s an interesting “coup” when the government before and after the coup is the exact same, and only one official left the country of his own volition. When you say “nazis”, do you mean in the commonly understood sense of “fascist ultranationalists” or in the Russian sense of “anyone who has any grievances with Russia for any reason whatsoever”? There is no evidence of genocide in the Donbas other than that Russia said so. Why does Russia have to care about NATO at its borders, what’s the problem?
But this is exactly the kind of “did not” “did too” kind of slap fight I have little interest in because all of the points have been made a million times already.
Even if all of what Russia claims about Ukraine was true, none if it is justification for Russia to invade and annex parts of the country. All excuses for imperialist expansion.
A shame, really, that Russia has gone down this path. It could be a wealthy, flourishing, respected country if after the fall of the Soviet Union it had made friends instead of enemies, like most other post-Soviet states have done and are better off for it. But of course Russia couldn’t do that: Russian imperialism is forever.
There it is. Denial and justification for Nazis. Literal Nazis, who self identify as such and parade the symbols. Wild that your script still calls for you to deny it while they’re erecting statues of Nazis.
I would say killing Nazis is a perfect reason for an invasion, if that’s actually what they intend to do. Nazi lives don’t matter.
Sorry, I don’t have a script - not all of us are as professional at this as you - this is all my own amateur work, and something I’m quite passionate about, so I am glad it is getting so much recognition from you. It indeed seems that you are using the term in the Russian sense, as expected.
And I’m acknowledging the context you’re leaving out: that Russia has been an expansionist, imperialist oppressor country for centuries, and that the newest excuses are just that - excuses. Can’t you see how Putin is playing you, using your commendable anti-Nazi position to get you to unintentionally defend his imperialistic talking points?
The historical context is clear enough that there is no need to talk about any of it: the current events are a continuation of centuries of Russian expansionist imperialist aggression. Their excuses may change but the fact of Russian imperialism does not.
Yeah, I’m aware y’all don’t like to acknowledge the Maiden Coup, the Nazis in charge, the genocide of ethnic Russians in the Donbas, NATO swarming the Russian border with troops & missile deployments and escalation for years, etc.
Like I said, I’ve been through this with you people before. You can move to the denial portion of the script now. Let’s get this over with.
It’s an interesting “coup” when the government before and after the coup is the exact same, and only one official left the country of his own volition. When you say “nazis”, do you mean in the commonly understood sense of “fascist ultranationalists” or in the Russian sense of “anyone who has any grievances with Russia for any reason whatsoever”? There is no evidence of genocide in the Donbas other than that Russia said so. Why does Russia have to care about NATO at its borders, what’s the problem?
But this is exactly the kind of “did not” “did too” kind of slap fight I have little interest in because all of the points have been made a million times already.
Even if all of what Russia claims about Ukraine was true, none if it is justification for Russia to invade and annex parts of the country. All excuses for imperialist expansion.
A shame, really, that Russia has gone down this path. It could be a wealthy, flourishing, respected country if after the fall of the Soviet Union it had made friends instead of enemies, like most other post-Soviet states have done and are better off for it. But of course Russia couldn’t do that: Russian imperialism is forever.
There it is. Denial and justification for Nazis. Literal Nazis, who self identify as such and parade the symbols. Wild that your script still calls for you to deny it while they’re erecting statues of Nazis.
I would say killing Nazis is a perfect reason for an invasion, if that’s actually what they intend to do. Nazi lives don’t matter.
Sorry, I don’t have a script - not all of us are as professional at this as you - this is all my own amateur work, and something I’m quite passionate about, so I am glad it is getting so much recognition from you. It indeed seems that you are using the term in the Russian sense, as expected.
Well you’re not very good at it, that’s for sure. When you’re finding yourself defending uniformed Nazis, your argument has gone off the rails.
And your argument was off the rails to begin with when you decided to defend Russian imperialism.
Not defending anything. I’m acknowledging the context you’re intentionally leaving out.
And I’m acknowledging the context you’re leaving out: that Russia has been an expansionist, imperialist oppressor country for centuries, and that the newest excuses are just that - excuses. Can’t you see how Putin is playing you, using your commendable anti-Nazi position to get you to unintentionally defend his imperialistic talking points?