Is everyone just now learning terrorism means political violence?
Then why doesnt the FBI consider people who blow up or set fire to abortion clinics terrorism?
They often do.
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/abortion-clinic-violence-terrorism
“While the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has maintained that these actions are not terrorism, this article suggests that there is a correspondence between incidents perpetrated between 1982 and 1987 and standards classifications of “limited political” or “subrevolutionary” terrorism. Perhaps the FBI has declined to accept the terrorism definition because of its preoccupation with international events which are seen in terms of administrative or jurisdictional definitions.”
That’s from 1988.
From 1977 to 1988, an epidemic of antiabortion violence took place in the United States, involving 110 cases of arson, firebombing, or bombing. The epidemic peaked in 1984, when there were 29 attacks. Nearly all sites (98%) were clinics that provided abortions. The FBI still says that those were not acts of terrorism.
well, you sure showed me what went on…40 years ago
You’re right. It’s not like history is important or anything. Silly me.
I mean, terrorism is just politically motivated violence.
This country was founded by terrorists.
They want to make Luigi an example. “Don’t do what he did, he’s being quickly processed with terrorism added to the charges. You don’t wanna be a terrorist do you?”
The complete lack of understanding someone who is pushed into a corner and has nothing to lose. Someone who expects the worst anyway.
… and in other news: Insurance CEOs are some of the best human beings walking on this Earth! Just this morning, one of them gave $50 to a homeless person who lost everything paying a hospital bill. What a golden heart!
I misread that as golem heart.
They are terrified. He did terrorize their class. So maybe just maybe being a terrorist isn’t bad, it depends on who you terrorize?
The only difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is your point of view.
funny how murikans are Super against gun violence all of a sudden when it happened to a rich white male… but not so much when its a class full of poor kids
Congratulations on the stupidest take in the entire comment section.
Do you actually have a point? Innocent children slain: bad. Evil leech that has a large part in oppressing us - maybe not so bad.
Do you really think the dude being white has anything to do with it? Pretty sure “CEO of health insurance company” is a sufficient descriptor and race has nothing to do with it
Spot on
The kids were already born, they don’t give a shit about them after that
Seems like most Americans are pro Luigi, but the government isn’t
The government and their bosses
That might be a good thing, because making a terrorism charge stick
is going to beshould in a just world be really really difficult.I thought you could just mutter terrorism under your breath and then say 9/11 and stick them in a cell forever.
Is it a separate charge?
He can still be convicted for 1st degree.
It pretty neatly fits the definition of (individual) terrorism (which doesn’t really exist). It was an act of violence, not based on personal grievance with the direct victim, but based on grievance with the system he represented. But, yeah, they probably wouldn’t ever pull that when someone gets murdered for racist reasons, which you could also classify as terrorism.
🎶 Because it’s about class and not about justice. 🎶
For what it’s worth, we do have hate crime laws that are supposed to be used in cases where racism is at play. I’m not saying it’s always used, but we do have additional penalties for it.
Yeah, trying to upcharge this from murder to “terrorism” is going to backfire spectacularly in the prosecutor’s face.
Let’s hope. But as we all know truth is financially dictated in our “justice” system, so it is a gamble.
I love how they media seems shocked whenever they find Americans who have been radicalized, when one of their counterparts have been radicalized Americans for the last handful of decades.
That’s on purpose - by acting shocked they expect viewers to react the same way. It’s essentially telling their audience how to feel about the story without outright saying “you should feel like this”.
The same way the laugh track in sitcoms ques the audience to know that something was supposed to be funny. Try watching those shows without the laugh track and see how funny they feel or how often you laugh
What a shocking surprise. Why stop there? Why not charge him with genocide? Bring him to The Hague and charge him with war crimes?
Billionaires are reading this post and thoughtfully taking notes.
Because all the dainty little devils are terrified
Who do we charge with terrorism for people being forced to watch their loved ones die from preventable causes that were denied treatment and cures by insurance companies? Asking for some revolutionaries I might or might not know.
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Rumor has it, if you say, “deny, defend, depose” in your phone 3 times, you’ll get charged with terrorism too. Hopefully you’re an American citizen or else it’s off to Guantanamo bay for you.
If you say “Gitmo Bay” three times in the mirror, a dark universe Obama appears and snatches you.
Does the dark universe do “enhanced interrogation” too, or the opposite?
The unconstitutional Patriot Act says they can do that to citizens too, as long as they’re suspected of terrorism. That’s why everything is “terrorism” these days, because under that accusation they’ll strip you of your constitutional rights and do whatever the fuck they want. It’s tyranny.
Still, as a person not interested (usually) in agreeing with my counterparts, notice how this is a “good guy with a gun” situation. So maybe militia movement has a point. They just don’t know how to use their correctness outside of their one part of society’s fabric, but that’s up to those who know those other parts. Cooperation and collaboration, all that.
And almost any “good guy with a gun” can be called a terrorist formally. It’s an arbitrary separation.
So maybe gun rights really are human rights.
You’ve probably noticed how in any group the best decisions are made when every opinion is respected, and if it’s incomprehensible, made comprehensible with good and kind effort, and where aggression and expulsion are minimized.
It’s the same in politics.
Lefty here, yes, that is what we, including George Orwell, have been saying for years.
Yes, my aunts, uncle and cousin live in a country reproducing “Animal farm” the last 6 years, with the end goal of being occupied and turned into a reservation. That book is more like reality than many would think.
US voters
I voted for Jill Stein, don’t blame me
The only real choice tbh.
I voted for Jill Stein, don’t blame me
how did you not hand the US to amerikkkan oligarchy?
By voting for Jill Stein.
The left keeps voting for Democrats, and the country keeps getting more and more fascist. But sure, it’s the Green Party that’s the problem!
How to trigger an american?
Tell them you voted third party. Yes, the two party system is perfectly ok.
Please tell me this is a joke.
Yeah, why would somebody with Arabic characters in their username vote for Jill Stein? Truly a mystery.
Why would I make assumptions about a person’s intelligence based on their race or cultural background?
Jill Stein opposed the genocide in Gaza which was supported by the Democrats and Republicans. As a result, she had support in many Arab-American communities. There were a lot of news stories about this, particularly towards the end of the election.
Has to be.
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Right?
If only the American people weren’t addicted to republicans and democrats. This might not happen.
Our election system mathematically guarantees there will be only two useful choices. Any attempt to swap one of those out requires years of transition in which you are actively helping the side who agrees with you even less to win and move you further away from what you want.
Until we have more ubiquitous ranked-choice-esque systems, that will not change.
Step 1 is voting for people who want to change the system - and they do exist
Yes, but this has to be done in a more local level. Trying to force a new party into existence starting at the federal level is not planning for success
Exactly, from the bottom up. Local candidates are probably the only ones you have a real chance of meeting and engaging with more often.
if only American politics wasn’t so organically intertwined with billionaires…
If only Kamala had won, then the Biden administration wouldn’t be doing this
For the ones in the back: the presidential elections aren’t the only elections.
Who exactly is terrified here?
Billionaires want to be both political and non-political. They want to be the average person who “worked hard to get where they are without help” and they want to be the special upper class who deserves special protection when one of their own gets shot.
This is very close to them admitting that class warfare is real.
Shareholders.
Translation: majority shareholders
Translation: the obscenely wealthy that run the country
Keep highlighting the issue.
