• lud@lemm.ee
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    If it’s politically motivated I’m pretty sure it’s terrorism.

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      Is the second guy who tried to shoot trump being charged with terrorism? Because that was politically motivated.

      If he’s not, Luigi also does not deserve the charge.

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      The NY charge calls for a specific action taken against a government entity.

      Unless UHC is part of the government, but corporations as government is Musolini style fascism, and the US isn’t a fascist country, right?

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        So, I’ve heard he didn’t actually have UHC. There’s also no confirmation of a denied claim, just the fact that he had back pain. Luigi targeted Brian because UHC was the largest insurance provider in the country, not because he was personally denied a particular claim. The guy was doing long distance hiking and running months before the slaying.

        TrueAnon podcast has a great deep dive into who Luigi was and what his potential motives were.

        He’s got a background in Effective Altruism, he got into the Dark Enlightenment movement, and was involved with a number of Silicon Valley gurus with particularly extremist ideology.

        Far from simply being an unhappy customer, it’s likely he’s a real life “Radical Centrist” who got pilled on far center neoliberal ideology.

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        I mean he wrote words on bullets (or casings, I dunno) and a manifesto…

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          American soldiers regularly paint imagery and words on the ammunition and vehicles they use to kill people. Are they terrorists too?

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              sigh yes you’re the third or fourth person to make this joke. Yes I agree.

              The point is that nobody calls them terrorists for doing that. Putting words or art on weapons and ammo is considered “normal” as twisted as that is. So Luigi’s doing it does not make him a terrorist.

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            The military is political. It is literally policy when the military moves. Anything any military does is dictionary terrorism. But terrorism is a nasty word for it so we don’t call it that.

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              I mean I’d agree lol but I doubt this person equates Luigi and the average American soldier painting a bomb. That’s my point. Writing on a bullet case or writing a political statement doesn’t make one terrorist. It’s the violent acts and who they’re directed at any why that determine it.

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          ….so? How many killers before him have written a manifesto? Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism? They’re actually striking out at “the system.” How many white supremacists mass shootings have written manifestos and not been charged with terrorism?

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        I’d say that yes it was definitely at least partially politically motivated, since it was just as much an attack against the system as it was against the person, but hardly terrorism since there was no intent to scare the general public.

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          He probably did intend to scare insurance company executives. I can see calling it terrorism, even if I think he should get off.

          I’ve dealt with back pain, and during the height of my battle with the insurer I absolutely would’ve been tempted to kill the fuckers given the chance.

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            insurance company executives

            Yes but they are not civilians, the are enemy combatants so it is fair game.

            Also Luigi if he did it, literally spared witness who is in fact a civilians.

            Terrorism charge will hopefully back fire.