Kinda related, I studied in Spain for a semester. Was taking with my fellow American roommate about the debate of if a tomato is a fruit or vegetable. Our host mom’s daughter’s boyfriend (Cuban, fwiw) overheard, and we told him about the “controversy” in the US but all 3 of us agreed it was a fruit. Host mom overheard us and asked what we were talking about, and the Cuban told her. “Well yeah, of course it’s a vegetable”
I couldn’t understand every word but when I could tell they were arguing about some vegetables having seeds or something like that I knew I spread something.
People think of fruits as having to be sweet and tomatoes are acidic and are used like non-fruit vegetables in cooking so I can see why someone who hasn’t thought about botanical definitions would think that way.
That’s kinda strange, I was taught in school that tomato was a fruit so that’s what I always went with. As to why, I honestly have no idea and wouldn’t be able to argue
Botanically fruit is basically defined as anything with a seed in it.
Although I think botanically vegetable is defined as edible plant matter, so strictly speaking all fruits are vegetables but not all vegetables are fruits.
All fruits are vegetables, not all vegetables are fruits. All edible plant matter is vegetable. Fruits are, well, the fruit of a plant.
Fruits are the reproductive organs of plants designed to be eaten by other animals in order to spread their seeds.
Right, the fruit of the plant is what we consider fruit.
You’d be surprised how little that definition helps when someone insists a tomato is not a fruit.
I mean, they’re clearly thinking about sweet versus not sweet. The discussion isn’t really about what a tomato is and isn’t, it’s about what the words mean and how they’re using them. There’s no doubt about what a tomato is. Everyone has a clear understanding about it. It’s just that people mean different things when they say it is/isn’t a fruit. People saying it isn’t a fruit say that because it isn’t sweet. Which is fine, there’s nothing wrong with that. But if they’re disagreeing that a tomato is the fruit of a tomato plant then they’re being foolish. And I don’t think anyone is saying that.
Whenever people are arguing about this it’s just so exhausting because they’ll hear something like “a tomato is a fruit” or that “all fruits are vegetables” and rather than try to seek understanding about how the other party is using the words they just dig their heels in and insist that’s wrong. When the whole reason they’re upset is because they’re picturing their own usage of the terms and imagining the other person saying a tomato is that.
You’re both right. It’s important to note that this classification only applies to botany. Botanically, it’s a fruit. Just like a peanut is botanically a bean.
Culinarally, tomatoes are a vegetable.
And for the purposes of tariffs, taxes, and customs, according to Nix v Hedden, it’s a vegetable.
There are many ways to classify an item. This just happens to cross boundaries depending on context.
My wife and I bought 10 lottery tickets at a time when the pot got up to 300 million or something like that. we were talking about what we would would do with the money once we won and couldn’t agree on how many of our friends mortgages we would pay off. we MAY have had some other things going on in a relationship at that time, but it’s still one of the stupidest arguments I’ve ever gotten in.
I like to believe that I would pay off mortgages for immediate family, and buy a house for any immediate members who don’t have one. If I have some left over I would think about extended family and friends.
I think I’m with your wife on this one.
I’d make trust funds for them and make it clear that this was it. If you give them cash they will hate you because you gave them only $1,000,000 a year ago and didn’t give them more this year.
Oh no, no cash. Just a large asset that will appreciate, and that’s it
I really shouldn’t respond to this since I’m just rehashing up one of the stupidest arguments I’ve ever had. but, what you said is actually pretty close to what my position was. we parted ways when it came to the more distant cousins. I suggested a cool hundred K USD out to second cousins 'cause, after all, 300 million doesn’t buy as much as it used to
but surprisingly, it didn’t really matter because we didn’t win the lottery. imagine that. /s.
My lesson learned was that arguing on principle isn’t usually worth it
Oh, when I said “I’m with your wife”, I meant physically. No way do I agree with her.
HA! sick burn
Any time I think of the lottery I can’t help thinking of this infamous reddit post that should be mandatory reading by anyone who wins.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb4v05
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb4yin
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb51su
That the whole transgender thing is a conspiracy by the healthcare sector to earn more money.
Which side were you arguing?
I just listened for amusement
When I started studying computer science, my father asked me what I learned, so I told him about Turing machines, trying to explain the whole thing, that they are a mathematical model for computers etc. But he didn’t believe me and insisted that a Turing machine was an actual piece of hardware built by Alan Turing. As much as I tried making it clear that Turing machines are a theoretical model, he was trying to explain to me that they are not. A week later when I met him he spent some time “fathersplaining” the life of Alan Turing to me. He had probably tried to read about Turing machines online (this was before Wikipedia), didn’t understand a single word, and so read Turing’s biography instead.
He was probably thinking of the Bombe, which broke Enigma’s encoding.
Let’s give more money to billionaires, they will make us rich too.
Ah, trickle-down economics. A tale as old as time.
So dumb.
Hour argument, that the final cliff fall scene in Predator 1 was two different jumps in the 2 cuts.
Can see in the first one he is rotating. Second cut is a straight plumb drop into the water.
How were the rotational moments counteracted?
They weren’t, it’s two different jumps/takes.
2 friends came up with some hair-brained arguments that you could stop rotating on the way down. (눈_눈)
The only way would be air resistance, and hands/arms is not going to be enough to create drag to counter the rotation.
Jackie Chan: Always shoot the punch twice.
I hate when people get into minute arguments about what is visually happening on screen versus the story that’s being told. It can be a single jump narratively but two jumps in production. (I’ve never seen the movie.)
I was not invested in the outcome of the argument, just seeing how far they were willing to take being wrong about aerodynamics/physics. Quite far it turns out.
Whether if something is deceptively [a trait] does it mean it’s the inverse of the trait or more of the trait than it appears, ie: if you call something deceptively shallow, does that mean it is shallow, but looks deep, or that it is deep but looks shallow. Hours of arguing with my family and checking numerous sources, we came to the conclusion that the phrasing can be used either way.
An event that happens biweekly could occur at the same frequency as an event that happens bimonthly.
Shouldn’t that be semi-monthly? Rounding months to 4 weeks, of course.
Or maybe that’s just me wanting bi and semi to have consistent meanings. Bi is two, semi is a half.
Probably should be, but isn’t. Bimonthly can mean twice a month or every two months.
Goddamit. I was so certain it was the inverse, and now here I am debating myself
You can thank me later
You’re debating whether not-3 is the same as “less than three”.
It’s => but not <= so it’s not ==.
🤔🤯
I think if something is described as deceptively shallow it means that it looks deeper than it is. IMO
A really stupid one was when my older sister started tossing out a bunch of random attacks on my character when I was about to drive her to work. I asked when I ever demonstrated any of these traits and she brought up when I jumped into an argument that had nothing to do with me the night before and supposedly said horrible things.
Anyone who knew me would have known I was in my room with headphones watching the Gravity Falls finale the night before. I think that was the first time anyone failed at gaslighting me, because I was that obsessed with Gravity Falls.
I told her to call a cab to work and she started crying. :/ Like, what did you expect…
Ah, the classic Gravity Falls defense. I use it all the time ;)
One of the best shows I’ve seen in a long time.
Anyone with good taste had an alibi that night.
it was about nutrition. it started with the fact that proteins, fats and sugars all have different energy densities and so how much weight you gain is dependent on what the food is, which is all fair. but then i made the mistake of saying “your weight won’t go up by more than the weight of the food, anyway.” and that spiralled out of control completely. apparently that’s wrong and you can gain infinite weight from one chocolate bar.
as usual for this person they felt that i refused to take the “holistic” view into account.
a more recent conversation started with them talking about some sort of blood sugar sensor that athletes use and when i said “that’s interesting, what’s it called?” they started talking about gut microbes.
There’s almost some truth to it. Certain foods, like salts and carbs, in certain situations, like low salt/carb diets, can have a ripple effect. 100g of carbs, or a few grams of salt, can cause your body to retain water. The effect being that you gained several pounds from eating just a few (hundred) grams of certain foods.
However, for your body to retain that water, you must also consume said water.
Though even in that case, I’d consider water consumed to be covered under “food”.
The only exceptions I can think of are from gaining mass from things other than what you eat. Like tar buildup from smoking, snorting or injecting various substances, boffing something (I think that’s what it’s called… Up the butt instead of out the butt), things sticking to your skin, absorbing through the skin, or bugs/aliens laying eggs inside you. Maybe getting possessed by a ghost, if ghosts have mass. But I don’t think all of those combined would even come close to a single meal, other than extreme cases.
I was curious and looked into how much mass the average adult loses through breathing, and apparently it’s at least about 69g (at rest, if you are metabolizing fat).
you can gain infinite weight from one chocolate bar.
Eventually you’ll turn into a black hole.
“holistic”
Aka, “Keep science and evidence out of this”
Well, nutritional science doesn’t have a great track record. While a lot of bullshit is justified using the word “holistic”, it is also true that nutrition and in general our metabolism are affected by so many factors that a reductionist approach to nutrition more often than not fails to give actionable insights, especially if you move away from very broad statements. It doesn’t help that every few years, some core concept of nutritional science is discovered to be the result of lobbying.
I fought with my aunt about “mom jeans.” I was telling her it was a style of jeans and she was adament that it was any kind of jeans that a “mother” is wearing.
Well technically you are both right though she is being pedantic.
My mom was playing Jeopardy on her Alexa and one of the questions was about a state in Mexico. Her boyfriend, who was very drunk, adamantly insists that it’s a trick question because “Mexico doesn’t have states.” It’s literally called the United Mexican States. Two of my aunts are from Mexico. It took like two hours to get him off the subject.
Confidently ignorant people really bother me. Even if I thought that I would’ve thought “Is that true?” and spent a second googling it. It is amazing how some folks are devoid of even the slightest curiosity but are blindly overconfident.
This one…
Nuh uh!
This one…
the one where the democrats are the ‘party of slavery’ because of what the parties stood for in 1860. yeah that’s why I’m voting for Lincoln and the union this year dumbfucks
I wonder why so many Democrats left the party during the civil rights movement? I wonder why David Duke left the Democrat party? I guess we’ll never know.
They might want to look up how the parties flipped during the civil rights era.
And yet California—a solidly blue state—just voted by public referendum to uphold slavery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_California_Proposition_6
Yeah, the problem here is calling them the party of slavery, when both parties are blatantly in favor of it.
Whether 12:00:00 is a period of time and could be AM or PM, or whether it was a point in time i.e., the meridian, and was neither AM nor PM.
12:00:00 exists in both AM and PM. I have my lunch at 12 PM.
i got into an argument with my in law about a 60$ sticker to block the ‘waves’ on my phone. for my health. and my phone will still work… it was a hologram sticker.
well, they do sell ones that work. you can measure them blocking all em radiation from exiting out the back of your phone… instead blasting all of it into your head. significantly more of it too, since the normal reaction of a phone that loses signal is to boost its own in order to find a tower.
But blocking any of it is useless because none of it is going into your head, the wavelength of the radio waves is too large to penetrate skin or bone, it bounces off harmlessly like am/fm radio waves. It’s in the nonionizing range of the em spectrum, unlike ionizing em waves like X-rays, gamma rays, radon emissions, etc that do penetrate human bodies and can cause protein or DNA damage.
actually no, some of it gets absorbed. that’s why there are SAR values available for all cellphones. it measures how many watts of heat get absorbed per kilogram of brain.
since it’s non-ionizing though, the only effect is a slight heating. like microwatts of heating. 15 minutes in direct sunlight is equal to millions of phone calls. but we do measure it!
No question it causes a little heat when it bounces off and the heat is absorbed, but if that heat gets to the point where you’re causing damage cooking yourself with a phone the phone is seriously malfunctioning and broken.
the problem is, apparently, that we just don’t know what sort of effect that heating has when it happens inside the body.
you know, never mind the radio spectrum part of what the sun puts out.
I’ve got the new ones that also block radiation, they’re on sale for 120$
