TL;DR - Lemmy’s userbase compare to Reddit just feel more angry and it so offputting when asking a question and getting an answer that sound like their pissed off. Feels oddly worse than Reddit.

Honestly, I want to like Lemmy as I want to try not use Reddit as much. The thing that is holding me back is I hate the users on Lemmy which their often passive aggressive and really snarky. I know Reddit does have those people but I always seen more them on Lemmy where I barely used it as much.

I asked on AskLemmy community if there’s any Gen-Z community around, ideally just talking about nostalgia and stuff like that. Nothing malicious at all. Then got a angry reply saying “Fuck Gen-what, just join community and post!” and telling me about generation are there to “divide” people. Apparently, me asking community which mainly be me talking about cartoon and games I grow up with is evil.

If the tone was at least “This may not matter as much and you find it better picking any community that in your best interest” then I’m be alright, it the way they seem pissed at me for even asking it like I’m an idiot which gets to me. When I told that person to calm down and stop being snarky, I got reply from other users saying they wasn’t.

Might stick to Reddit for now. I know it not great but it in my experince isn’t as easily pissed off and is actually bareable to scroll for awhile. I hate talking bad about Lemmy as I really want to like it but I just hate the userbase so much that it feels pointless to even properly use it as much.

  • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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    1 month ago

    Sorry to hear.

    I saw your post yesterday, I knew it was going to get negative reactions.

    Maybe you can try more positive communities like !casualconversation@lemm.ee ?

    There is a selection of communities here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20504960?scrollToComments=true

    If that may help, someone told me I was an “energy vampire” today, so it seems like everyone will get a not so nice interaction every once in a while. I hope you’ll stick around, but it not, all the best!

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        1 month ago

        It started with “they’re basically an energy vampire that just drags down the vibe of Lemmy with constant but what about or I don’t fully agree replies” so I’m sure it’s not supposed to be as flattering as a comparison to Colin Robinson

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    1 month ago

    I think that your desire for a place where you can discuss the experiences unique to your generation is totally reasonable, and I’m sorry you’ve gotten backlash for asking how you can have the same thing others are enjoying. To me, there’s obvious value in a Gen-Z community. Later generations too eventually.

    My friends and life were already firmly established during the covid lockdown and I imagine that the younger you were the more impactful that period and the time after it must have been. I’d love to watch younger people talk about that time of their lives if only so I can learn more, and it’s obvious I could learn other things I’m not even aware of yet from younger people’s conversations.

    I for one hope you stay, and even if you don’t feel up to starting a new community I hope you get what you’re looking for. There’s nothing wrong with posting to a slow or dead community and just thinking of it like a small forum every once in a while. You’re definitely not the only Gen-Z on here, and if you post someone else might feel more comfortable posting too!

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      1 month ago

      Thanks, it generally means a lot! I just thought Lemmy is more welcoming instead of whatever is not in majority of the users’ interests is bad and malicious.

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    1 month ago

    I will say, lately lemmy has been in uncharacteristically confrontational. It’s been a rough year so far, hopefully things chill out

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        Agreed. I’ve followed less and less of all content since probably mid October.

        Americans are mad, everyone else is mad at us for what happened. I don’t fault anyone for being mad, but I feel we’ve only got like a dozen Trump people on Lemmy, so everyone’s just taking it out on each other.

        We’re gonna be screwed for a long time if we can’t stop infighting.

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    1 month ago

    Log on around 11am CET

    The Europeans are up and about, and the angry, leaded-petrol-huffing gun-owning cowards are mostly sleeping

    Far, far more civilised

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    1 month ago

    Lemmy is full of echo chambers. People afraid to have a conversation with people with other opinions. A simple word will trigger them, its like you can all be wrong together.

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    I’m too new to be making these kinds of suggestions and I’m far from the moderator type myself but multiple times throughout this week, I’ve been thinking that it would be pretty cool if there was an AskBlåhaj. Or even just general Ask Lemmy based here, that could be asking for unwanted attention from shitty people on other instances though.

    Not even 24 hours after seeing this post, I’ve seen someone else getting the snark and a non answer for a simple question. And also a Blåhaj user.

    As much of a public bathroom as it could be, AskReddit was pretty fun for ‘silly’ questions and general chatting. And a nice place for new users to hang around and gain karma and confidence. But with the gatekeeper neckbeardy types around, maybe what it needs on Lemmy is to be in an instance with rules that promote friendliness and good vibes.

    Just an idea to throw out there anyway.

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      , I’ve been thinking that it would be pretty cool if there was an AskBlåhaj. Or even just general Ask Lemmy based here, that could be asking for unwanted attention from shitty people on other instances though.

      Probably something you can suggest on !main@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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        1 month ago

        I’ll ask it there (or here) a bit later then, if you think it seems like a good idea. Currently about halfway through a j and a cup of coffee, just scrolling and throwing 2 cents in here and there.

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    1 month ago

    I’m sorry you’re experiencing this kind of behaviour, you deserved better than that interaction.

    Personally, I have met a lot of hostile users from sjw and lemmyworld. So I’m going to do what Beehaw did and block out their instances completely. Besides the smaller instances need more love, the fediverse works best when it is decentralized.

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    1 month ago

    Lemmy really needs to focus on improving the default UI, and making it as easy as possible for users to sign in and start seeing posts etc.

    Especially on mobile, it was a nightmare for me to figure out which app, which instance etc. most people would have given up by then.

    People are used to having a very smooth process when using social media etc. and Lemmy is really lacking in that department.

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      My experience getting started here was a rollercoaster for sure. I think that one thing that would improve the experience immensely is if there were a way to have one profile no matter which instance you sign up on. I’m on my 3rd instance right now and the first 2 were both within my first 2 days of trying this place out.

      It’s like if you want one permanent profile, you have to first research the politics of an instance, and its politics with other instances, and hang around long enough to check out the users and see if your first impression was true etc. etc. And just kiss your old profile and history good bye if the politics change and you need to move homes.

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        1 month ago

        That would be great yes

        I think a good start is to just join lemm.ee or even lemmy.world

        And then figure out if you really want to switch or not.

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          Yeah it seems obvious to me now to choose the busiest server first but when I first came here, the join page was taking forever to load anything lol. So at that point the obvious (to me) choice was the small server advertised as for reducing load.

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          never progressing much

          It’s not my place because my own work rate isn’t much to speak of, especially in terms of the amount of times that I’ve started and abandoned programming tutorials over the years now. But that phrase seems to be the answer to a lot of missing / possible features around here so far, from what I’ve seen. It’s like this place reached a certain point in development and now it’s just being maintained. Which is sad, I heard about this place a couple of years ago already and from what I can surmise, it hasn’t progressed much since then.

          Not complaining, I like it here. Just an observation from my uneducated but not completely uninformed viewpoint.

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      1 month ago

      Here’s the message I usually post on Reddit when people are looking for an alternative. What do you think?

      "Lemmy has 42k monthly active users

      Feel free if you have any questions"

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    I asked a vegan what the word “carnist” was and got banned, lol. You’re right, there’s a lot of angry folk on here…and it’s hilarious

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      Would you go to a trans community and ask what cishet is?

      The fact that you find it hilarious shows you were not being there in good faith.

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        I’ve seen multiple posts on vegan communities about how they’ve been going onto some random carnivore communities for no other reason than to stir shit and get banned. So most of those arguments have lost all credibility to me personally; being angry and rude to people who ask honest questions makes you the asshole, full stop. You can never assume everyone knows all the exact things you do, and banning them from the community for not knowing them, while it is a choice you can make, is going to make your community look terrible.

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          people who ask honest questions

          That’s the principle sealioning is based on. Trolls pretend to be asking “honest questions” and then start trolling.

          There are toxic people in every community, I showed an example above of a carnivore diet community which got locked as it wasn’t complying with LW’s ToS. !vegan@lemmy.world is still open.

          Am I now going to say “A carnivore community has been banned, those people are nuts” based on that anecdotal evidence?

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        To show an example of of what vegans face, !carnivore@lemmy.world got locked as it was a community which was willing to dunk on vegans, which is against LW terms of service.

        Honest, but tangential question: is dunking against vegans specifically against the LW terms of service, or is it a more general violation against dunking on any group? I’m asking you because you seem to be familiar with the history of the carnivore@lemmy.world lock and also their terms of service.

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    I don’t agree its as bad or worse than Reddit which is packaged fury everywhere. However, the last few months tempers have certainly risen and bad-faith takes and antagonism are more visible in some communities. There seems to be a lot more right-wing people, or centerist apologists at least, than there were before the US election results and I think those results might play a part - emboldening some to speak up and causing so much stress in others that they lash out where they wouldn’t have before.

    Just make liberal use of the blocking options and take your time to find your people.

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    Honestly, I want to like Lemmy as I want to try not use Reddit as much. The thing that is holding me back is I hate the users on Lemmy which their often passive aggressive and really snarky

    Funnily enough, these are exactly the same users who take a huge offence and make a drama with admins at the slightest jab addressed at them.

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    I know you’re venting, and there’s not much to say to help.

    I am genuinely surprised that you’ve found lemmy more unwelcoming than reddit. Yeah, it runs higher to snark here, but there’s less outright nastiness. But on either platform, it usually is going to come down to the community and the type of community.

    You know, gaming communities tend to run high to assholes because gamers run high to assholes. Same with specific anime series or other fandoms. Politics is always a shitty subject matter to talk about. That kind of thing. But, you step into one of the knife communities on lemmy, and you don’t find the kind of aggressive jackassery that’s available on reddit ones (not all of those, a couple managed to keep good mods during the debacle).

    It sucks that people suck. Genuinely, I’m not dismissing your experience. I haven’t found any corner of the internet that doesn’t have suckitude due to sucky people, though some specific communities/subs/forums moderate for a civil and chill atmosphere. The jerks still pop up in those places, but they get whack-a-moled soon enough.

    • SuperDuperKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      Yeah, I do think it comes down on whatever communities you’re in which varies what the experience be like. Lemmy is very open-source focus which great asking for support and even finding interesting FOSS project but terrible how angry they get anything corporate or proprietary related and even they expectation for newbies to do.

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        You’re going to likely interpret the following as snark or more anger, but I promise you it’s not. I ask the following in good faith: if you encounter folks who believe that large corporations, generally, and the use of proprietary software/hardware by those corporations, specifically, are having harmful effects on humanity, do you expect those folks to respond without emotion when those subjects are broached? If so, why? Is it because you disagree with their assessment harm or is it because you believe that anger is never acceptable? Something else perhaps?

        There are those who believe that even when confronting brutality and viscous exploitation, those who stand in opposition may only politely ask for change. Some other folks believe that these calls for restraint serve only to uphold and support the exploiters and the brutalizers.

        You seem to be coming from a good place and your desire to get away from reddit probably reflects a belief that there’s something wrong there. But maybe take a step back and ask yourself if there’s a good reason that people seem angry?

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          You’re going to likely interpret the following as snark or more anger, but I promise you it’s not. I ask the following in good faith: if you encounter folks who believe that large corporations, generally, and the use of proprietary software/hardware by those corporations, specifically, are having harmful effects on humanity, do you expect those folks to respond without emotion when those subjects are broached? If so, why?

          I do believe that large corporation should be held accountable for whenever they done anything shady and suggest alternatives as well as state the pros and cons of it.

          My issue is them replying angrily at the people that happens to use it, not even knowing why they use it instead of the alternative, if the alternative can delivers what they can already do. Not all alternative are “one size, fit all” and sadly, some are more a compromise rather than they would get any benefit from using it.

          You seem to be coming from a good place and your desire to get away from reddit probably reflects a belief that there’s something wrong there. But maybe take a step back and ask yourself if there’s a good reason that people seem angry?

          I saw it the whole thing more as them assuming I want an community to mainly talk crap about older generation which isn’t the case. To me, I vision the Gen-Z community I was wondering exist in Lemmy being like sort of like “90s kids” Facebook group which post meme related their childhood and stuff they grew up with. Again, not trying to do some generation war and talk crap at them.

          If some have read my reply to others, they would realized that. But instead, they jump into conclusion so I felt like I was being yelled at for being a idiot for even asking and get accused for something I wasn’t even thinking about.

          If the tone is something like:

          “I’m not too sure how good idea is having separate community for generation is as we’re aleardy divided personally. But you find it better joining any community you find interesting”

          I wouldn’t be too upset and won’t feel attacked and I can reply saying “It isn’t meant to be a divide, rather…”. But instead, they begin with “Fuck Gen-whatever” and be passive aggressive to me. That what annoyed me the most.

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    I totally understand that. A lot of people here are arseholes.

    I think my experience has gotten much better now that I have a long blocklist and am on an instance with downvotes disabled. But yeah it doesn’t feel super friendly all the time here.

    But I feel the same way on reddit.