Wayland all the way, 120 hz Freesync monitor with 60 hz second monitor works perfectly on KDE Plasma with AMD. No fussing about with X11 configs or worrying about if the compositor is active or not, it just works.
I can’t seem to get Freesync working on KDE Wayland with a single monitor (NixOS with an AMD R9 380). Any tips? I’m using vrrTest to test, and my TV reports when Freesync is enabled.
Are you using HDMI? Try display port. (Its an old post but maybe related) https://www.reddit.com/r/swaywm/comments/w3ug4q/enabling_amds_freesync_on_sway/
Yeah. My TV is HDMI-only and doesn’t have any DP inputs.
The open source amd driver doesn’t support freesync with HDMI afaik
Don’t bother choosing. Use whatever the distro gives you until you actually have a reason to switch
I use arch btw. My distro doesn’t give me anything. I was on x11. Wanted to experiment a bit and now I’m configuring hyprland. Going well for me so far
Wayland is the future. X11’s future is dead. Unfortunately there are still some growing pains. Xwayland mostly works but I have issues with it sometimes.
If you don’t know install a distro and use what comes with it by default and only worry about digging into the plumbing if something doesn’t work for you.
Ideally you let your distro worry about plumbing.
I think Mint is nice if you don’t need bleeding edge stuff. You can use Cinnamon which runs x11 but will eventually support Wayland.
I’ve heard good things about suse which has a rolling release option and supports gnome and KDE under Wayland.
Arch of course is a thing if you don’t mind a manual transmission as it were.
Personally I might pick Mint to get started.
Wayland. No screen tearing and it doubled my battery life.
No screen tearing out of the box is a huge plus for wayland. Makes recommending GNU/Linux much easier
Wayland, because it’s faster, more stable, handles multi-monitor better, you can have animations while playing a game, no tearing, no fcking around window managers/compositors or shit, lower memory usage and 1:1 touchpad gestures
you have the same with X11… i have all these feats with my intel and AMD GPU.
So why Wayland then? Better architecture/codebase and more manpower. And I think it supports multi-gpu better, not sure as nvidia doesn’t play well with Wayland, it would be astonish that Optimus works any better.
Try running multiple monitors with different resolutions or game… Just in general (no seriously, people who think that gaming on X11 is better than wayland are fcking insane… No tearing, having to disable compositor to get more than 20fps, nothing just works) in X, bet you’ll have a great time. And yes, Nvidia is the only reason why imo anyone should still be using X (if they don’t wanna use gnome)
Wayland. Because it’s X12. Not a spiritual successor to X11, but an implementation of a subset of X12 by the X11 people. The fact that X11 even works for desktop is a miracle, and only possible due to everyone deploying ass-backwards workarounds to make it work. Now the only changes to Xorg are related to Xwayland.
Wayland because X is owned by Elon Musk
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He just copied the logo that’s copied from a unicode symbol! ;)
Wayland for better multimonitor support, scaling, and tear-free rendering.
X11. I heard NVIDIA is buggy on Wayland. Also, I’ve never really had much problems with X11 and my system setup.
I found that Wayland works better in my case: XPS 17 with Nvidia on Ubuntu lts. Less stuttering and overall smoother feeling. The only issue is that the screen doesn’t always turns on after suspend, but this is healed with ctrl+f1.
Wayland if possible because it generally performes better and is actively maintained. Xorg if Wayland doesn’t support your system yet.
X11, because it’s stable.
Wayland if you have more that one monitor. X11 can support multiple monitors but it is a disaster.
Rustdesk doesn’t work on Wayland and that is a real bummer
I run a dual monitor on X11 and never understood why people have issues with it? I’m by no means a Linux expert and I do run in Nvidia, I run different refresh rates. Can someone explain it to me?
If your monitors are different DPIs then multimonitor X11 is awful.
If you’re questioning why anyone would have monitors with different DPIs remember that laptops exist.
Even without considering laptops, I can already imagine quite a few circumstances where someone might want monitors of differing DPIs. I’ve actually thought sometimes of getting a smaller monitor I can have off to the side that I display a browser window containing mostly text on when I’m playing videogames or working in something like Blender or Aseprite; yknow, for referencing a guide, wiki, or manual or something. I don’t even have a super high desire for a multi-monitor setup outside of that.
I run 2 monitors with different DPIs and X11 works without an issue. Can’t say the same about wayland where scaling still has so many bugs it’s just unusable.
You can’t set 2 different DPIs for the monitors on X11. On one monitor everything is just going to be bigger than the other. Depending on the DPI difference it can be basically unusable.
Valid point. I forgot about 4K… I run just 125% scale so it doesn’t bother me at all. Well it’s kinda funny that both protocols are broken in that regard.
I feel like taht’s often the case but Wayland as the newer protocol usually has the correct architecture with a early implementation while X11 has hard to fix architectural problems. I am a opponend of “whatever works for you” and I think that will be Wayland for most people fairly soon if it isn’t already but in case it actually isn’t I wouldn’t recommend it because, well, it doesn’t work properly for you.
You can configure software rescaling using xrandr and some scripts… But that can cause a massive amount of jank with anything that requires a degree of pixel accuracy
I do similar. For laptops and docks, especially if they change setups it can be a pita (though you just need to copy files around).
Also the DE monitor config (ie that you use to login) is logically different to a users x config. So you gotta copy that over to make sure the primary monitor etc is right.
x11
2 monitors 144hz, 1 TV 120hz.
Nothing on any monitor can render at higher than 120hz
Play movie on any one screen, other screens can’t render anything at higher than 24fps
Wayland works fine
Wayland first, but have both installed so you can fall back to X11 if you need to. If you do have to go back check wayland again after every few updates. X is dying a long-needed death. It started off has a hack decades ago and has just been held together with duct tape ever since. There are some not so great things in wayland with some apps, sometimes issues with context menus or screen recording for example, but they’re getting fixed over time.
I do kind of miss x forwarding over SSH. It was really convenient, there might be something for wayland but I haven’t looked for a while.
I tried Waypipe over SSH and it worked. It was long ago, it might be even better now, I don’t know. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/emersion/waypipe
I get screen tearing when gaming on x11 so i use wayland and I only switch to x11 if i need to screenshare on discord.
https://flathub.org/apps/de.shorsh.discord-screenaudio
I use this. Allows screensharing with audio over Wayland on discord.
Hasn’t really worked reliably for me tbh
Games again. Don’t you people have jobs?
Actually, no. Is that a problem for you?
When you’re gaming crap (in this case, Wayland) starts poorly replacing things I use for work, then yes!
When you’re work crap (in this case, X11) starts poorly replacing things I use for gaming, then yes!
FTFY.
What the hell kind of gatekeeping is this anyway?
Fix your wayland piece of shit or get it the fuck out of linux. Gatekeeping my ass. It does not FULLY replace X11 functionality, and they have no intent to fix that. Why go backwards and break what works for our daily jobs? It fucking moronic.
It does not FULLY replace X11 functionality, and they have no intent to fix that.
No kidding. That’s the entire mission statement of Wayland.
Why go backwards and break what works for our daily jobs?
Nothing is stopping you from using X11 outside of company policy, which is an entirely different problem.
It fucking moronic.
No it’s not.
I’m a longtime user of X11 and vastly prefer it for what I do, but I’m not going to force the opinion of my preference on others with different use case requirements.
C’mon, the *nix world is big enough for choice.
No kidding. That’s the entire mission statement of Wayland. Which is WRONG
Nothing is stopping you from using X11 outside of company policy, which is an entirely different problem. Not true. As things get made to be Wayland only, X11 is getting pushed out.
C’mon, the *nix world is big enough for choice. No, it isn’t. Wayland is a toy for people who play. X11 is a tool for people who work.
Won’t be long now before your your favorite DE’s will only be available on Wayland, and be missing features because of it.
