Summary

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth denied allegations that he texted classified war plans to a Signal group chat that mistakenly included The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg.

The National Security Council confirmed the chat’s authenticity but called the inclusion of Goldberg an inadvertent mistake.

Lawmakers from both parties demanded investigations, with former CIA Director Leon Panetta warning of potential espionage violations.

Hegseth dismissed Goldberg as a “deceitful” journalist. Trump denied knowledge of the incident.

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    Sooo Pete didn’t do it, but trump also says that Pete learned his lesson?

    US is a joke. A very dangerous joke.

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      Admit it but say it isn’t a big deal, but also deny that it ever happened. Let your followers pick whichever version they prefer. Profit!

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    Disgusting comments about Europe in the group chat. The USA is a pariah state; the sooner we disentangle from it, the better.

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        Here: The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans By Jeffrey Goldberg

        The account identified as “JD Vance” addressed a message at 8:45 to @Pete Hegseth: “if you think we should do it let’s go. I just hate bailing Europe out again.” (The administration has argued that America’s European allies benefit economically from the U.S. Navy’s protection of international shipping lanes.)
        The user identified as Hegseth responded three minutes later: “VP: I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC. But Mike is correct, we are the only ones on the planet (on our side of the ledger) who can do this. Nobody else even close. Question is timing. I feel like now is as good a time as any, given POTUS directive to reopen shipping lanes. I think we should go; but POTUS still retains 24 hours of decision space.”

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    LOL, you know what, sure. yeah. pete didn’t add anybody to the chat. it’s fine. the journalist got in there on his own. by eating carrots or something.

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      Pete didn’t add him, Mike Waltz did. But that’s neither here nor there, they all were in the wrong.

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        no, it was the carrots. the atlantic journalist just ate lots of carrots. it’s a known vulnerability in signal; I’ve run into it a bunch. when I eat too many carrots, sometimes I just end up in random signal chats. I actually met two girlfriends that way. I don’t even need to try, just happens by accident sometimes when you set me down next to like a ten pound bag a couple times in the same month. it’s nobody’s fault, nobody should be punished, nothing needs to be done about this issue.

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          Yeah, I think this is right. I don’t even have the signal app on my phone but carrots got me in to a meeting of the board of Coca Cola. It’s definitely carrots.

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    House Speaker Mike Johnson to reporters on Monday after news of the messages spread: “I just was with the president in the Oval Office just now. The administration is addressing what happened. Apparently, an inadvertent phone number made it onto that thread. They are going to track that down and make sure it doesn’t happen again.”

    Sounds great, how about we start by following fucking protocol? And not using a chat app on a damn mobile phone to have discussions on this scale?? Huh???

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    It’s deny, deflect, and then what? Let’s see I didn’t do, I did it but her emails, I did it so what? An I missing a step?

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    They’re saying he didn’t share classified war plans and you need to check the word usage with such lies. What probably happened was that they declassified everything that was shared. So what he is saying is now technically correct - the war plans are not classified. So he did not share ‘classified’ plans. This would also mean Tulsi is not ‘lying’ when she says that no classified information was shared. Typical obfuscation of facts by words.

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    No justice without truth, Congress won’t impeach and DOJ won’t prosecute, we’ve been here before with Mueller and the insurrection.

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    Shambolic reporting featuring bothsides arguements. Farce masquerading as truth. America deserves what it voted for (or didn’t bother to).

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    First reaction from the republicans, This was a mistake, and we all make mistakes. Second round, these messages show how great our officials at doing their jobs and making the hard decisions. The latest , that never happened to begin with, it’s a disgraced news outlet and a disgraced journalist. Even their spin doctors are dumb as fuck. Pick one and stick with it you imbeciles…this abc politics

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      I’m seriously hopeful that the people who have historically given into this lie are wising up.

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          While acknowledging that Trump voters are emotional and fear-prone, they’re not entirely stupid and generally not cultists, probably, maybe. Can we have some sliver of hope? The ones I know are certainly not stupid but are tragically misinformed and savants of confirmation bias. I’ve also noticed that they care a great deal. It seems more like a target misalignment problem than a broken turret.

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            The ones I know are certainly not stupid but are tragically misinformed and savants of confirmation bias

            Can you please define “stupid”? Because this feels like a very apt definition of the word you’re trying to use

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              The only characteristic of stupidity is being misinformed? Everyone is misinformed to some extent. There are myriad aspects to intelligence. We’re all imperfect monkeys.

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                Nobody is denying that we are all imperfect monkeys nor is stating that being misinformed is the only characteristic of being stupid. I’m simply sayig that making mistakes is human, perservering in being mistaken is diabolical, as we say here in Italy. They knew the man from the previous administration and they actively choose to support him still after they saw what he was able to do with January 6th, besides all other misdees he achieved between 2016 and 2020. They are either morons and idiots or bad people, no inbetween left imho. If you still believe they are capable of changing without receiving an heartfelt apology from them, buddy, I’ve got a coliseum to sell to you, contact me in private

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                  I understand the rage completely. As an American, I have lost hair for it. The tiny optimist in me believes that these people have a limit. They will never apologize for anything, but we can hope that they’ll trend more toward sanity once they discover how fucked Trumpism is. Many of them are fucking idiots, but a lot of them aren’t.

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              I think he means there are some otherwise intelligent people voting against their self interests because the echo chambers and media they are exposed to have convinced them to.

              Smart people can be misinformed too. Finding a way for them to be informed could help those ones (I wish I knew some of them, because I think I could help, but the trumpets I know are the cultist ones with really screwed up morals).

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                A smart person is impossible to dupe twice. This is Trump second term, anyone voting for him a second time after the first one does not deserve to be called “intelligent”. They are as stupid as they come and they can only blame themselves for that, especially in an era where information are abundant and vary.